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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING ADVISORY COMMISSION
May 24, 2023
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Patrick Garman called to order the meeting of the Strategic Planning
Advisory Commission at 4:01 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL
Members Present Chairman Patrick Garman, Vice Chairman Bernie Hoenle;
Commissioner Kevin Beck; Commissioner Jill Keefe; Commissioner Cynthia
Magazine; Commissioner Phil Sveum, Commissioner Geoff Yazzetta
Members Absent: Commissioner Kevin Beck; Commissioner Jill Keefe
Staff Present: Deputy Town Manager David Trimble; Executive Assistant Angela
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3. CALL TO THE PUBLIC
Pursuant to A R S. §38-431 o1(N), public comment is permitted (nor required) on matters NOT listed on the agenda. Any such comment (1)
must be wimin the jurisdiction of Me Council. and (ill is subject to reasonable dice, pace. and manner restrictions. The council will not
discuss or take legal action on matters raised during call to the Public unless the matters am properly noticed for discussion and legal
action. At ibe conclusion of the Cell to the Public. individual councilmembers may (i) respond to criticism. till ask staff to review a matter. or
Off) ask that the matter be placed on a Mum Council agenda.
No one from the public spoke.
4. REPORTS BY COMMISSIONERS AND TOWN MANAGER
Chairman Patrick Garman
Commissioner Phil Sveum
Commissioner Cynthia Magazine
Commissioner Geoff Yazzetta
Vice Chairman Bernie Hoenle
Deputy Town Manager Dave Trimble
5. UPDATE: Fountain Hills 2022 Strategic Plan Implementation
• Economic Development Director Amanda Jacobs
• Chief Financial Officer David Pock (tabled to next meeting)
6. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Appoint a Commission Vice Chairman
MOVED BY Vice Chairman Bernie Hoenle to APPOINT Commissioner Geoff Yazzetta to
Vice Chairman of the Strategic Planning Advisory Commission Meeting, SECONDED
BY Commissioner Cynthia Magazine
Vote: 5 — 0 passed — Unanimously
7. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Appoint a Commission Chairman
MOVED BY Commissioner Geoff Yazzetta to REAPPOINT Chairman Patrick Garman to
Chairman of the Strategic Planning Advisory Commission Meeting, SECONDED BY
Commissioner Cynthia Magazine
Vote: 5 — 0 passed — Unanimously
8. COMMENTS FROM THE CHAIRMAN
9. NEXT MEETING DATE: Wednesday, June 28, 2023
10. ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Patrick Garman adjourned the regular meeting at 4:52 p.m.
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Pat ' k Garman, Chairman
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CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and correct copy of the minutes of
the Regular Meeting held by the Strategic Planning Advisory Commission in the Town
Hall Council Chambers on the 24'h day of May 2023 that the meeting was duly called
and that a quorum was present.
DAT,his 28th day of Jun
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GARMAN: All right, I'm going to call to order this meeting of the Fountain Hills
Strategic Planning Advisory Commission as of May 24th, 2023.
So Angela, could you start things off with the roll call, please.
PADGETT-ESPIRITU: Yes. Thank you, Chair. Chairman Garman.
GARMAN: Here.
PADGETT-ESPIRITU: Vice Chairman Hoenle.
HOENLE: Here.
PADGETT-ESPIRITU: Commissioner Beck.
Commissioner Keefe.
Commissioner Magazine.
MAGAZINE: Here.
PADGETT-ESPIRITU: Commissioner Sveum.
SVEUM: Here.
PADGETT-ESPIRITU: And Commissioner Yazzetta.
YAZZETTA: Here.
PADGETT-ESPIRITU: Thank you. We have a quorum.
GARMAN: All right, awesome. We have a quorum this afternoon. Okay. So next,
number 3 on the agenda, I'm going to go down to the Call to the Public. I don't know if
anybody submitted any comments, Angela.
PADGETT-ESPIRITU: No. We have -- we have no one. Thank you.
GARMAN: All right. So no Call to the Public this afternoon either. So were moving
along. Let's move down to number 4, which is going to be reports by Commissioners and
the Town Manager. And were going to start things off today with our -- our newest
Commissioner, Phil Sveum.
SVEUM: Correct.
GARMAN: Close as -- close, 1 will learn. But I think Phil was just sworn in today. So
were going to let him go first and -- and do introductions. So go ahead, Phil.
SVEUM: Oh, thank you. Pleasure to be here. I'm anxious to provide whatever 1 can for
my input and -- and serve the community. My wife and I moved here last year. We're
very excited to be in Fountain Hills.
As I mentioned, I'm a graduate of Arizona State, 1976. Been coming back ever since and
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knew we'd end up here some -- at some point. And today of -- sale of our business in
Wisconsin and moved here a little bit earlier than I thought. But enough is enough.
We're happy -- happy to be here and I'm happy to -- to serve on this committee.
GARMAN: Awesome, thank you. Thank you very much. So moving along, I guess
from left to -- left to right, Cynthia.
MAGAZINE: I think for the first time 1 have really nothing to report. Can you believe
it?
GARMAN: Geoff
YAZZETTA: Good afternoon, everyone. First, Phil, welcome to the Commission. I had
been here for about a year when I was appointed as well. So I see you like the ground
running, too. So looking forward to getting to know you better and serving alongside you
here.
Real quick Senate Kavanagh secured a $10 million fund within the state's budget for the
International Dark Sky Discovery Center. 1 sit on that board, along with Kevin Beck.
And all of a sudden, overnight, the project went from being, we hope we can do this to it
is a viable project now. We're at $18 and a half million. And we need to raise a total of
about 25 million. So some larger donors are starting to look at this with a little more
credibility and then possibility here. So were hoping to get this project started sooner
than later. It'll dovetail nicely with a lot of what we've got going on here in the strategic
plan and I think we'll be a big boost for the town.
So that's all I got, thank you.
GARMAN: That's great. And I know, Joel (ph.), 1 think he briefed us just a few months
ago on that --
YAZZETTA: Yeah.
GARMAN: -- so yeah. Bernie.
HOENLE: Glad to be here. 1 just came out of the last two hours meeting on the street
committee. And our next order of business we'll make a presentation to the Council on
the 20th of June. And right now just working through a lot of details.
GARMAN: Nothing like being in the crucible in that, right? Dave -- I know you --
David, right?
TRIMBLE- Yes.
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GARMAN: Okay. Sorry, 1 wanted to make sure. Anything for the Commission?
TRIMBLE: Not that's on the -- again, Dave Trimble, Deputy Town Manager,
Administrative Services Director. I'm sitting in for Rachel Goodwin, Town Manager,
who wanted to be here. She is upstairs where Bernie just came from, on the streets
committee, working with them. So that is a meeting that's still going on. So thanks for
coming down, Bernie. And welcome to Phil.
That's my only real update this morning. And from time to time, the staff, at their weekly
management meeting will go over the SPAC's strategic plan. And we did that. And just
kind of a touch in -- touch base on it. So we did that this moming. And I know we have
Amada Jacobs here, our Economic Development Director, who'll give us more on the --
on her end of things. But we did touch base on all the different touchpoints this morning.
So that's about it.
GARMAN: Awesome. Great, thank you. So moving down to agenda item 5, I -- we,
you know, we do updates, implementation updates, I'm -- periodically provided by the
town. And if you look at the outstanding document that was printed out and given to us.
It's the strategic plan and it's, I guess it's more of a timeline implementation plat, timeline.
1 would call it the template that we have. And if you look, the -- the column about three
over, it says, "Projected Completion Dates." So we put those in to -- to the last plan to
kind of give us an estimate, you know, to look and see how things are doing on
implementation.
So a few of them, you know, were -- had the first year, which March would have been the
first year. So I know looking through those and talking to Angela and Rachel, tried to get
the folks from the town that were responsible for those items that we thought could be
done within the first year to -- to come and brief us during this year, and at least before
we go on our summer recess at the end of June.
So it's really awesome to have those folks here. So I know David Pock is going to come
in June. I think John Wesley is going to come in June to talk. And we wanted to thank
Amanda for coming, economic development piece of the plan, to talk to us today. So
thank you very much. The floor is yours.
JACOBS: Your welcome. So Mr. Chair, Commissioners, good to see you guys. It's
been, I think, a year since I presented. 1 know when I was before you, it was just four
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months being into -- in the role. So 1 was drinking from a firehose. Sometimes 1 still feel
like that.
And so as the Chairman mentioned, just going to focus on a couple of the items that are
that -- that first year. Just give you a heads up. And so the targeted collaborative
economic development, one of the items is a business advisory group. And that's
changed a bit since, you know, I was drinking out of the firehose.
So how were tackling this item is several ways. So in June of last year, I started meeting
with several business owners in the downtown area. And there was a desire to really
focus on the Avenue. And so the downtown area takes into account Vere River,
Parkview, and Palisades. But because there's a lot of development and growth already
happening on the Avenue, this particular group, again, wanted to just focus their efforts
on the Avenue.
And so after six months of meeting, they officially formed the Avenue Merchant
Association in January are meeting monthly. And so again, that's taken up a lot of my --
my time. And that is good, because who is at the table are business owners on the
Avenue. And so they're able to tell me that, you know, we want to see more commercial
growth as business owners and most of them, too, are -- are residents. They're wanting to
see more activity, such as events. In the budget, we have a line item for -- for
placemaking. So doing more art, but not sculptures. Looking at different murals. A lot
of our businesses don't like to look at those lovely, white utility boxes in front of their
businesses and are wondering, you know, could we work with SRP to turn that into
artistic pieces. And so again, that not just ties into the economic development quality of
life but, of course, tourism.
Also, the Fountain Hills Chamber of Commerce, monthly, has industry stakeholder
meetings. And so putting together folks from retail, from the financial and health
institutions. And so I'm attending those meetings as well. And it's really good to hear
from these folks, especially the restaurants in retail because things, as we know, have
been challenging during COVID and after. And so they're knowing firsthand, you know,
the struggles and -- and what we can do.
And of course, I've been saying, and some of you've heard, the biggest struggle,
obviously, is work force. And so having to -- to really tackle that. That, of course, is a
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national issue not just a Fountain Hills issue. And some of it being truly stemming
from -- from COVID. We were forced to go inside the doors. We want to stay in our
home. It's much more fun. We don't want to go to the office. So there's -- there's that
part. But there's also looking at our demographics. And our average age is 58.
And so in the coming months during summer, I know some people are taking a break and
a recess, but I will be rolling up my sleeves, meeting with council and putting together,
finally, that proposed economic development strategy. And the goal is, I'll be working
with the chairman to bring that to -- to SPAC to get your guys' feedback before it goes to
council to see if you want to provide comments, if you want to make an official
recommendation.
But we're going to have to start having hard conversations of, do we want to just stay as
is, status quo? Do we want to be known as a retirement community? Or what I'm
hearing is no. We want to be vibrant. We want to grow. And in order to do that, we are
going to have to -- to change, sort of -- of our makeup. But it's also changing some of
our -- our policies.
And then last year, too, with the Business Advisory Group, I've been meeting again with
current, but then also some retired business owners that, again, have relocated here, like
Phil. Phil and I have had a conversation. So that when we have people knocking on the
door to say, hey, we're interested in Fountain Hills, that I have folks that I can pick on to
say, hey, do you mind taking someone on a tour of Fountain Hills. Or you know, they're
sort of interested in bioscience. Tapping into people to say, okay, how are you
successful? What do you see the, you know, success in Fountain Hills? So that is how
we're tackling this.
The next one, again, and not that first year, continue to improve the public health, well-
being, and safety of our town. So here, it was just two years, I think, last month or earlier
this month that Fountain Hills Medical Center celebrated their two years. They were here
before council last week giving updates. And so sometimes this month, I know we're
almost at the end of it, but they'll be providing telehealth services for our residents. And
then they're also looking at, hopefully, corning soon, that they're going to be able to
provide ambulance service. Last year on our health primary care and urgent care opened.
And so again, just looking at that targeted industry of -- of how can we grow but finding
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out from residents what else can we do to expand services to our residents and visitors.
And then, of course, too, the town is officially a dementia -friendly community.
And then, I'm just going to look to Mr. Trimble to help me, and I think there was the first
Memory Cafe --
TRIMBLE: (Indiscernible).
JACOBS: -- thank you -- that has -- that has occurred. And then, so again, even though
these are in one year, a lot of this we see as -- as ongoing. It's not, oh, it's done, we're not
going to do this next year. We'll continue to -- to focus on these efforts.
And so with that, any questions I may answer'?
GARMAN: So thanks. We're going to open it up for discussion and -- and questions.
And I already saw one for you out of the corner of my eye, but Cynthia.
MAGAZINE When is the first Memory Cafe and where is it located?
JACOBS: That's where I'm gong to need help. I think it's occurred. So Mr. Trimble --
TRIMBLE: Yup.
JACOBS: Okay.
TRIMBLE: I'm not the expert either but I did ask a few questions because I didn't know
what it was all about either. So it's a -- it's kind of like an ongoing event at the
Community Center that is sponsored by the town. So they -- if I'm understanding it right,
it's a place where both the -- the person that's having issues remembering things, maybe
me right now, and their caregivers can go for a little bit of a respite, if you will, because,
you know, it's just an ongoing thing that just wears on people that are particularly
giving -- giving care. And also the folks with dementia issues. With memory issues.
But they can go and gather and -- and just be together with people of the same issues
and -- and kind of get away. Get out of the house for a while. I'm sure there's more to it
and Jennifer Lyons and/or it'd be Sheryl Ponzo (ph.) over at the Community Center
probably could brief us more on that. But that's kind of the idea, is a little bit of a respite
for a couple of hours.
JACOBS: And then Commissioner Magazine, we'll follow up. I can send you an email,
just to make sure that -- is it happening the third Tuesday or, you know, of' every month.
I'll follow up on that.
GARMAN: And you just -- there you go. How are you?
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SVEUM: How's it going to be determined whether this is going to be a retirement
community or a vibrant, diversified community?
JACOBS: So Mr. Chair, Commissioners, really what -- what that's going to be is -- is our
residents and through this proposed economic development strategy. So some things
I've -- I've chatted with a few of you about. Or again, publicly is, for instance, taking that
downtown area, looking at Palisades, we've had some challenges. So there's office that is
available, where I could submit a proposal or get somebody in there, but were having
issues with the zoning.
So for instance, bioscience or optics. Some of that leans more towards industrial, for
instance. And so were having to say, no. Because with some of these proposals, they're
showing a growth plan. So were going to have to look to see, to be more attractive, have
the proper zoning. But then, looking at the downtown, there's going to have to be
policies and investments made to make it vibrant. To make it attractive to young
professionals.
Some of that is sort of low hanging. Some of it is a lower cost. But some of it is a larger
investment that well have to see if — if over time, Council and the community are -- are
supportive. And so again, it won't be overnight. It won't be in a year. But different
strategies can make it a vibrant, growing downtown.
SVEUM: Can I follow up on that?
GARMAN: Yeah, 1 didn't, and one thing, if you have -- when you have the time, we
have the strategic plan that -- that we helped draft. You know, it was approved by our
Council, March of 2022. It's just over a year ago. So that contains, you know, four
pillars, and one of those is economic development. But things like -- like you talked
about is -- is throughout the strategic plan. And one of those, when --you kind of looked
at brand image, that' sone -- how we going to image the town? So these -- these are
topics that are in -- to help provide a guidepost in the strategic plan, but our council, you
know, elections every two years, work on this, seems like every month.
What's our town going to be? Right? And -- and the voters have a say in that through
their elected members. And then, we just help provide guidance based on information
that we gather from the town. But a lot of the tasks and the ways are -- are in the current
strategic plan. And wherein the previous one -- and the previous one on ways to -- to do
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what Amanda is talking about. Okay, now, you can follow up. Go ahead.
SVEUM: Well, 1 think more from -- from a -- a residential angle of how people can be
able to move here and find affordable homes or apartments. And what -- what can be
done to enable that to happen. And 1 guess it goes back to how do people living here
have a -- what's their vision of it to become? Is it another 10,000 people? Is it another
15,000? Is it -- is it staying as it is? That's -- that's my question. I don't have an answer.
I'm just wondering how that type of surveying is done with the community. Is there
going to be an effort to do that?
I -- that's what I'm -- that's what I guess the larger question is.
GARMAN: And we -- we are that vessel to a certain extent. When I say, "we are," we
are -- we help as being part of that vessel, like, it's our charge to see what the pulse is of
the town, do surveys, do workshops, do interactions, and see what the town is thinking.
And in a kind of a nonpartisan way, put together an overarching plan.
And we've touched on all those things, just within the last year. But you know, we'll talk
a little bit about affordable housing and demographics and -- and all of that, that are a part
of the town. But you -- you're exactly correct. Those are all issues that we -- that we
deal with.
JACOBS: Nope. That -- that was perfect. And then 1 know, Geoff and Phil were able to
tell what -- attend one of our workshops where, too, we introduce the concept of work
force housing. And then so far, I mean, it was a smaller group that attended but they --
they were interested. They're like, okay, we -- we get it. Because again, it's -- it's starting
at sort of that higher foot level and -- and why were proposing some of this.
I think sometimes it's that that, also the root cause of -- of why are we asking? Why --
why are we changing? So but no, perfect. Perfect answer. Chairman Garman.
GARMAN: Geoff, go ahead.
YAZZETTA: Real quick, I just want to address something you were asking about. So
the strategic plan, if you look at the council agendas and planning and zoning agendas,
you'll see Guiding Principles. And those guiding principles stem from this plan. So you
can see how it tethers into the decisions that Planning -- Planning and Zoning are making
recommendations. But the decisions Council makes reflect what's in this plan. I mean,
we advise them, we don't direct them.
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SVEUM: Sure.
YAZZETTA: Yeah. I just want to fill you in on that.
SVEUM: Of course.
YAZZETTA: Cynthia, you had your light on first. So do you want to go?
MAGAZINE: No. If you have more, go ahead --
YAZZETTA: Oh, okay.
MAGAZINE: -- talk later.
GARMAN: Go ahead, Geoff.
YAZZETTA: Director Jacobs, great to see you.
JACOBS: Great to see you.
YAZZETTA: I've said it many times before, you bring a great energy to this position.
And it's very important for the economic development and the vibrance in this town. I
know we've had many discussions, you know, in person, at the events you've hosted.
I wanted to ask about the utility boxes. Is that just an idca right now? Or is that
something that is already in process? Because my colleagues and I in the City of Los
Angeles, we did many, many utility boxes. And if you need, like, a primer on it, 1'd be
happy to furnish that information to you.
JACOBS: Thank you. So Chairman, Commissioner, so I'll still say ifs preliminary.
We've had -- last year we started conversations with -- with SRP to -- and they -- they
were open. And so then it was now getting some funding. So now it will be after June
6th. If the budget is adopted, we'll start having more formal conversations. And then,
putting together a timeline to start seeing some of these things happen.
Because again, it was, it's now been almost over a year. I remember my first day, starting
to walk downtown, talking to the businesses and, like, could you do something about
this? And of course, you know, you want to make a -- a good impression. So it's like,
oh, rats, it's been over a year. But hopefully, in our first quarter of the budget, so July to
September, we can start to see things happen.
YAZZETTA: Sure.
JACOBS: Build some excitement.
YAZZETTA: Yeah. We used a --
JACOBS: Thank you. 1 appreciate -- I appreciate your help.
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YAZZETTA: -- of course. Yeah, we used grant funding, local businesses would sponsor
them. And it's a great way to showcase local artists. I know there's a lot of local artists
here in Fountain Hills. So just, you know, another one of those things that you notice
while you're in town. It's like, hey, there's something special about this place. So
excellent, thank you again for everything you do.
JACOBS: Thank you.
GARMAN: Awesome. Cynthia.
MAGAZINE: I'm going to throw you a curve, perhaps. But I think that you heard Geoff
mention the Discovery Center, the Dark Skys Discovery Center, the huge funding that
were now getting from the State. It's probably just a question of time before we begin to
build it.
JACOBS: Um -hum.
MAGAZINE: I think the town needs to get ready for that and I'm wondering if you have
anticipated that? This is probably something that would be addressed in the next plan, by
the time this is built. But 1 think it wouldn't hurt for the person in charge of economic
development to include the Center in your discussions with businesses you're trying to
attract. I mean, because this is going to be a real star.
[LAUGHTER]
JACOBS: Yeah, pun intended, right, Cynthia? And so, yes, we are starting as -- as staff,
so community services, our town manager, development services, public works. Again,
it's going to take an army. We're starting to -- to plan for that. And then just last week,
starting to have discussions again with the other piece of the puzzle, with the Dark Sky
Association on programing. How can we make it more robust? What is similar? What's
in alignment with the Discovery Center? What are things we need to plan for? And
some of it's been timely. I've just, you know, Geoff saying this -- this announcement.
But also, we've found out just a couple weeks ago, the Arizona Office of Tourism, they
had started a couple years ago through Governor Ducey, a visit Arizona initiative.
So taking some of the ARPA funding, targeting it towards tourism, because that again
was one of the largest industries hit by COVID 19. And how do we make our -- our
marketing more robust?
And so I asked the staff, we have a new governor, there's also a new director of AOT, is
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this going to continue? And it is. And so this year we were able to secure $230,000.
And we were able to give a portion of that, only 25,000, to sponsor the Dark Sky festival.
But having conversations of -- beyond just the festival, what arc ideas that —just the
Dark Sky, so the Board, the Association have, that we should start thinking about and
maybe could secure more -- more grant funding.
And so we'll be meeting with them again in another couple of weeks. And we also had a
conversation last week with Mayor Dickey and Manager Goodwin of, it's also probably
timely to have the Council and Board meet up in a workshop. And so we'll be planning
that in the fall. So Commissioner, we're on it.
MAGAZINE: (Indiscernible).
JACOBS: You're welcome.
GARMAN: To my left -- to my right, okay, so I have a few. Can you go back to the --
the actually, the begin, like, the second slide? Yeah, that --
JACOBS: Yeah.
GARMAN: -- the Business Advisory Group. That was specifically in our plan. So is
there a plan, and this has been espoused by some of the commissioners as far as topics to
put on our agenda, going forward. And we -- we have a lengthy list. We try to get to
them.
Do we have a, you know, I would call it a downtown plan, you might call it an Avenue
plan -- is there a plan for the future of our -- of the Avenue?
JACOBS: So Chairman, there is, what I've been told --
GARMAN: And that's not accusatory, that is just --
JACOBS: -- oh, no.
GARMAN: -- does one exist?
JACOBS: Nope. Yup.
GARMAN: Because if one does exist, my next question is going to be, can you come
brief us on it at some point? But go ahead.
JACOBS: So -- so there is a plan. It looks like it was completed in '08 or '09. And we
also know what happened during those years. The great recession. So there's
conversations, I know some folks are, like, we'll, let's continue -- continue to work on
that. But I think again, over the summer, having the conversations of, could it perhaps do
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a refresh? Is that something we can tackle internally? Would we have to invest some
dollars to update that? And then to go on, you know, to what you said, what Phil said,
of -- of serving more -- having more workshops.
Again, I know that that was done. But '08, '09 again, we've just -- the climate has really
changed. So but there -- there is. And maybe we talk of, well, do we bring that or -- or
do we wait to see if there's an update.
GARMAN: That's interesting. Is -- as we, you know, we turn the clock from this
summer into this fall, were actually, you know, looking forward and actively beginning
to refresh the plan that was just approved last year. Because that's what we do, right?
Look to the future. So it'd be, I think, really helpful and -- and we would all like to hear,
maybe, what it looked like back then or what your thoughts are going in the future.
Whenever that comes about, you'll find a welcome audience here. And the invite is
always open for you to come back.
JACOBS: No, absolutely, we're happy to do that. And I'll bring John Wesley with me,
our Development Services Director.
GARMAN: Yeah.
JACOBS: He has more knowledge.
GARMAN: And what about the -- the Shae Corridor plan? Is that -- now that is actually
a plan, right? Is that something that can be briefed to a -- to a commission?
JACOBS: I think so. I'm going to defer a little bit to Mr. Trimble. Do you --
GARMAN: The Shae Corridor.
TRIMBLE: I'm not sure on that.
JACOBS: Okay. we'll have to follow up. And just to make sure I'm understanding what
type of a plan that -- is it more, like, road infrastructure or again --
GARMAN: (Indiscernible).
JACOBS: -- okay, economic development.
GARMAN: It was, you know, there was a plan that -- that was realized what's there now.
And then, I think, I believe Grady had told us that there's another -- a plan as far as where
we go from where we are now.
JACOBS: Okay.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: (Indiscernible).
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JACOBS: I know, Pm not -- yeah, I'm not quite sure.
GARMAN: Okay.
JACOBS: Mr. Chair, we'll get back to you.
GARMAN: I think there is. I think it involves housing and businesses and -- and other
things. Repurposing some of the, you know, the empty business -- businesses that are
there, so.
JACOBS: Okay. Was that the Swaback? Swaback Plan?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: (Indiscernible).
JACOBS: That's -- yeah, that's the downtown specific area plan. So with the Shae, I'll --
I'll look into that.
GARMAN: Okay.
JACOBS: Unless, too, we're thinking about the different conversations that has been had
with the Four Peaks Plaza, which I call the Target Center, or Tarje (ph.).
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: That might be it.
GARMAN: That might be it? Just a different name?
JACOBS: Yeah.
GARMAN: Yeah.
JACOBS: But we'll follow up. We'll look into that.
GARMAN: And then, as -- as we go forward, just more of a statement, too, is, you
know, we have the four strategic priorities in our plan now, but we're looking to refresh
those over the coming year. So we'll see. I -- I imagine economics will -- will still be
very strongly represented in that plan, for sure. But it had, you know, that encompasses
sometimes in demographics and -- and like you were saying, how . how to get kind of
workers into Fountain Hills and -- and but there's a democratic process. When people
vote, you know, they'd always kind of make sure we're going in the right direction. Let's
put it that way. Changes our course. Alters our course. Right?
So I just wanted you to know that as we go forward, we will probably reconnect with you
because economic development is always important. It always has been in the plan. So
we need to continue to stay close with you. And please, if you, if something comes up,
please come and talk to us because were working on the next plan. And we want to help
you.
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JACOBS: Yeah. No, absolutely. And we want to make sure there's alignment.
GARMAN: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: (Indiscernible).
GARMAN: Yeah, Phil.
SVEUM: I expected you to be at every meeting. So -- I'm kidding.
[LAUGHTER]
YAZZETTA: My question is, part comments, part question, but I've always felt the
school system is a vital part of economic development and vitality of a community. How
are the school -- how is the school district going to be kind of intertwined with this
commission? That we can work together. I mean, it seems that there's -- there's certainly
a strong effort to improve schools, grow the schools. How can we work together with
them to see that that can happen? Because every -- each helps each other, right? I mean,
the better the schools, the better the economic vitality. The better the schools, the better
-- and it -- and it continues to climb.
So how are they involved? What piece of the pie are they involved with this -- with what
we're doing?
JACOBS: Chairman, do you want to start with that as -- the -- what you guys are doing?
And I can answer --
GARMAN: So that -- the background that the -- the school, kind of like the sanitation
district is separate from the town government here. Right? So -- so they do work
together. And we did meet with school board when we were devising the last plan to talk
about. And I agree with -- with everything you said. And we do need ideas to try to
work together.
I do know the superintendent there is -- is working with the town as far as just some
things that he's brought about. He -- he's looking instituting internships with the students.
So in order to graduate, you have to have so many hours interning in a business around
town. Right? We also have the -- the vocational school that kids go to.
So there's a lot of opportunity there is what I'm -- what I'm trying to say. So I guess
more -- more to follow on that as far as we're concerned. We -- we are briefed by
members of the -- of the school board. And we brief them as well. So we do have a
relationship. We -- we've usually talked to them offline and not, like, they would -- they
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normally would not come and brief us. We usually meet with them in the interim and
have more of a -- a -- what do I want to call it, nonofficial meetings with the school
board. That's how it's been over the last decade.
JACOBS: And then also --
GARMAN: (Indiscernible).
JACOBS: -- within by here of being here, first, you know, there was transition with the
superintendent. The, of course, the election and -- and change of the Board. And in
trying to figure out, okay, what arc we going to do with the current, you know, floor
plans if you will, that we have. Are we going to consolidate?
But you're absolutely right. As they're navigating their plans, they need to be working
closely with the town and economic development. Because again, that's the quality -of -
life piece. And if you're attracting the young -- the young families, it's, you know, we
want the kids to be staying in -- in the school system. And 1 think tackling, I have heard,
don't quote me, that perhaps 500 students actually leave Fountain Hills and are going to --
to other school districts or --or charter schools. I think also, finding out, like, what's
the -- wat's the why behind that? The how -- how can we keep them here?
And then having it part of our -- our marketing plan.
MAGAZINE: Mr. Chairman.
GARMAN: Go ahead, Cynthia.
MAGAZINE: With the development of the current plan, there was a small -- we broke
up into subcommittees. There was one subcommittee, very, very concemed about trying
to bring the schools together with the -- with town. And reality set in. We could just do
so much. But we spoke with a member of the PTA. We had tried to incorporate some of
that into the plan. But we have to be careful. Because it is a separate entity. Just to let
you know.
GARMAN: That's all the questions I had. I don't see anybody clse's light on. So --
JACOBS: Thanks so much for the opportunity.
GARMAN: Thank you very much for briefing us. And -- and, you know, just to
reiterate, you're always welcome coming back to kind of get a sense -- either to brief us
on what's going on or to give us a sense of what's going on or to ask us to help in any
way.
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JACOBS: Yeah, absolutely.
GARMAN: Always there.
JACOBS: Happy to. Thank you.
GARMAN: All right. Thank you. Thank you very much. So before we move on to
agenda item 6, Angela, I wanted to make sure we made a statement about the minutes
from last month because we didn't approve the minutes and I'm -- I'm thinking that
maybe the -- the transcript not ready?
PADGETT-ESPIRITU: Correct. Correct. They've been behind so we have yet to
receive those yet. But so those will be on the June 28th meeting for approval. And
hopefully along with the meeting minutes from today's commission meeting, too. So
they'll be double.
And what I'll do, as soon as I get those, I'll just send those out in advance, so you have
time to look them over, okay.
GARMAN: Right.
PADGETT-ESPIRITU: Sony about that, my apologies.
GARMAN: And I know I don't have a vote. And 1 don't know what that contract looks
like. But I would love to go back to the way it was before we had a verbatim transcript.
And that is, yes, verbatim transcript into the microphone.
[LAUGHTER]
GARMAN: Okay. Okay, were going to move on to agenda item 6, which is we're going
to look at the -- the vice chair and the chair for the coming year. So we're going to start
off with the vice chair and 1 was going to hand it over to my partner, Bernie.
HOENLE. Sort of picking up on a model that -- that we used previously with the
planning commission that I've been on -- working on the last plan. We rotated some of
the of the internal leadership positions around. So what I'm offering up to do is change
out the vice chair's position to another individual. And to pick up, I don't plan on not
continuing or not working or doing anything else, but I think the leadership role is good
to move around. And so that's what I'm asking for approval right now. And to resign
from that position and then after that's approved, then I would like to make a nomination.
GARMAN: All right. I don't think -- first of all, thank you. Thank you, Bernie. I don't
think we have to make a -- a -- an action for you to resign. Right? I mean, we reappoint
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these every year.
HOENLE: Right.
GARMAN: So I think were reappointing for next year. We're not resigning. And so 1
don't think we need to make a motion on your resigning is what I'm saying. So I think, if
you wanted to say anything else and then follow up with the -- with a motion, that would
be -- that would be fine.
HOENLE: Okay. Sounds good to me.
GARMAN: Yeah.
HOENLE: Now, do we need to make the appointment of a replacement as a formal
motion?
GARMAN: Yes.
HOENLE: Okay. I move that the new vice chair for Strategic Planning Advisory
Commission be Geoff Yazzetta.
GARMAN: So Bernie, there's a -- a motion on the table. Is there a second?
MAGAZINE: Second.
GARMAN: So I hear a second. Thank you, Cynthia. Is there a discussion among the
councilmembers about the -- the motion to vote on Geoff Yazzetta as the new vice chair
going forward? Any discussion?
GARMAN: Yes, Cynthia.
MAGAZINE: Here, here.
[LAUGHTER]
GARMAN: Your lights on -- nope? Left to right, I see no other discussion topics so we
can move on to a vote. Right? So correct -- all in favor of Geoff Yazzetta being the vice
chair going through the next -- next year, say -- say aye.
ALL: Aye.
GARMAN: Those opposed -- 1 think that was unanimous, can say nay. I think it was
unanimous though. Correct? And that's five, five to zero, unanimous. All right. Thank
you very much, Geoff.
Geoff, got any comments?
YAZZETTA• I do. Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, fellow commissioners. I
appreciate your confidence in my ability in a leadership capacity. Been here in Fountain
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Hills about 18 months and I don't plan on leaving. This is a wonderful town and I'm
looking forward to seeing this current plan forward and helping develop the next plan so
that we can help Fountain Hills reach its fullest potential. So thank you, everyone.
GARMAN: So -- so that's good. We're done with the unanimous decision, and we move
on to the next agenda item which is agenda item number 7, which is the appointment of
new Commission Chairman. Are there any motions on the table?
YAZZETTA: Yes. I move to reappoint Patrick Garman as Chair --
MAGAZINE: Second.
YAZZETTA: -- of this Commission.
GARMAN: All right. So we have a motion from Geoff for me to remain as Chair. I
thought I heard a -- is there a second?
MAGAZINE: Yes.
GARMAN: Cynthia seconded. Is there a discussion on me, Patrick Garman remaining
as the chair over the -- over the next year?
MAGAZINE: I would just like to say I think it would be a terrific leadership team. The
experience that Geoff had in California; he brings so much to the table. Plus his
enthusiasm for being here. It seems that Geoff belongs to everything here. He's joined
all of it. So he will be well informed. And I have watched him over the last year that he's
been on the commission. He does a good job. He does his homework.
Patrick, it goes without saying that, you know I've been applauding your leadership with
this Commission, that you have revitalized it. You have kept it going during the summer.
Sort of like a mini- or maxi -leadership academy. And I think that that's been very good.
Particularly for any of our new members. So with that, I just want to say thank you to
both of you for being willing to do this.
GARMAN: All right. I see no other discussion, okay.
[LAUGHTER]
GARMAN: Everybody's prepped and ready. So then we'll -- well move on to the vote.
So all those in favor of Patrick Garman remaining as the chairman over the next year say
aye.
ALL: Aye.
GARMAN: Those opposed. Looks like it was unanimous. Thank you very much. I
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accept. I do -- I would say that Geoff, you do need to bring the coffee from now on to
the -- to these meetings, at least.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: (Indiscernible).
GARMAN: Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. So those two agenda items, Angelia, we all
good with both of those?
PADGETT-ESPIRITU: Yes.
GARMAN: Set for the next year. Awesome. Okay, so move on to agenda item 8, which
is comments from the Chair. By the way, I -- I know I'm going to make some comments
and if anybody has some final comments, you -- you're more than welcome. Usually,
were racing, you know, to get done before the hours. But were -- we have some time
today. Which is not -- not normal.
So some of the comments I have. I -- I was able to meet, if you've known over the last
year, I've been reaching out to the other commission chairs here in Fountain Hills, to have
conversations with them and to see if, you know, they could brief our commission on
goings on in their commission and maybe the plans that they have, like we had for the
McDowell Mountain Preserve. That was awesome. And that I can then go and brief
their commission as well on the strategic plan for the entire town.
So this month, a couple of weeks ago, I met with the Community Services Commission
Chair, Natalie Verela (ph.). I think that's how you pronounce her last name, Verela. So
Natalie was great. She's been here a while. She's very happy to talk. She does want to
come visit -- and brief us, community service, because we have an awesome Community
Service Director and interim Town Manager, I guess. And -- and also the commission,
we have a great parks system and have great planning to go along with that.
So she has asked me to come and brief her commissioner first. And then she's going to
come brief ours. So I think we can expect her here, maybe August, September time
frame, and tell us what's going on in her commission. Which is awesome.
And then I wanted to mention, really quickly, we -- we're really -- I'm starting to look
into our plan for next year and starting to put pieces together on what were going to do.
So when we're sitting here next year at this time, we've accomplished something that we
set out. So I -- I'm a big believer that if you plan something it tends to happen. It might
not be the outcome that you envisioned, but something happens when -- when there's a
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plan.
So I wanted to start putting together ideas and kind of something, electrons on a
PowerPoint slide on what were going to do throughout the year so that we accomplish
our goals. So that will be laid out, I'll be talking to probably each one of you individually
and trying to put that together into a plan that we can look at and discuss next month in
the June meeting, to give everybody a chance to kind of think of where we might be
going over the next year.
As far as strategic planning goes, you know it starts with the big, whatever you call it,
overriding pillars, strategic priorities. We have four strategic priorities. The previous
plan from 2017 had five strategic priorities. So it -- it' s not in stone. Usually less is
better. But I think it's -- we need to start and refresh those priorities over the next year.
And the way we refresh those priorities is not just, hey what do 1 think or what do you
think? It's actually out and talking to people in Fountain Hills. People vote, people live
here, people pay taxes. So that's going to be the plan throughout next year, is to see if we
can divide into two or three groups and go out and work to get the pulse, to get the
opinion, to get data on what the people that -- that live and work in Fountain Hills believe
are overriding strategic priorities might be over the next five to ten years. So get ready,
because we'll all have assignments heading into the next year.
Okay. And some of those, as you think, and as we move into next -- just the next month,
think of ways that we can gauge the -- the ideas that the people in Fountain Hills have. In
other words, surveys, in -person workshops. Right? Taking an opinion poll somehow,
maybe in person at a festival. Some ways to be able to get out, talk to people so that
when we're here next -- next year at this time we can say, hey, we think with a certain
confidence that these are going to be our strategic priorities going forward. And this is
why we think that. Because we talked to people, and this is what they told us.
Okay. Next -- next month also on the agenda we are, hopefully, going to have a
presentation from David Pock. He's the Chief Financial Officer for the Town, again, on
the implementation of our strategic plan which -- which is really great, and I appreciate
the -- the Town folks coming to talk and the directors. It's -- it's wonderful, actually.
And also, I think John Wesley might, might as well. Right, Angelia? I think he might be
on -- on the calendar. So we can look forward next month to have those presentations
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from the Town. And to talk about -- talk about what, how you think we should work
throughout the next year to start refreshing our plan as we go forward.
All right. That was a lot from me. Any other comments? Bernie.
HOENLE: Just like to add a positive from being back on the Commission. And that's
being -- staying engaged. Because when we were on it last time, we put the plan on the
shelf and took a big break. And we didn't even have any meetings or anything for a
while. So -- so keeping it moving along, bringing in speakers, starting to look at a year
down the road now, and getting some of the metrics back -- where are we on the plan? Is
it working? Do we need to make any tweaks. Because a plan needs to be revised as it's
required. It doesn't need to sit on the shelf for ten years and say it didn't work.
So if there's something else that we need to see to -- to do it as it goes along. So staying
engaged is great. Topics and the speakers, we've had plenty of conversations about that.
And trying to set a direction is probably the key thing that's been missing a lot. It's been
documenting what we're doing today. And not really where things are headed. And so
taking a look at trends. Some of the things that Amanda brought up. Things have
changed in the last 10, 15 years. So we need to be able to approach that.
And even as -- as Phil mentioned, there are a lot of different touchpoints in this town.
There's the Chamber, there's the schools, the 501(c)(3)'s, volunteers, I mean, there's so
much augmentation on -- on people and roles that they play, the PTO, there -- there's lots
of different power groups. And they all have an idea of what's going on. And sometimes
we just go past one another. So it -- it's really good to keep in touch with them.
Another example is what used to be called Vision Fountain Hills. That was a whole other
organization that was almost parallel to our planning group here. But it was a private
group. So if it's still there or not, it probably doesn't matter, but it -- we need to know
about it and to see what sort of efforts are going on.
So there are lots of things that we could get into. But again, 1 -- 1 think 1 brought it up at
a previous meeting, were a planning group and an advisory group, not an operational
group. But we need to be looking five to ten years out. And not be restricted by the
current budget.
So that's my two cents. And I like being here.
GARMAN: Thanks, Bernie. Phil.
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SVEUM: I've heard, 1 guess a lot of potential guests coming before us, but I didn't hear
the councilmembers nor the mayor. And I do think it's important. They are the
policymakers in this community. It's good to, whether it's, I guess offsite, like coffees
and so on, which, I've done. Just to learn a little more about what their vision is. But I
think at the end of the day, they're the ones that are going to accept or reject any product
that comes out of this Commission.
And I would like, I guess, their involvement and input during this process as we're --
were having presentations made by staff, whether it's from the financial standpoint or
the -- I don't want to call it the political standpoint, because I don't -- these are
community server -- servants as far as I'm concemed, in that role of alders and mayor.
But I think it is important that they come and talk with us a little bit about what their
vision -- by the way, they are a great conduit to what people are thinking in this
community. They are the ones getting the phone calls, the emails, the -- the stops on the
street to -- whether to say thanks or to complain. Right? Or read the paper. Letters to
the Editor. Whatever it might be.
But I -- I think that their involvement is -- is good during this -- during this process.
Again, that's just my opinion.
GARMAN: Thanks. Cynthia, no.
MAGAZINE. (Indiscernible).
GARMAN: Well, I -- I know that, you know, the political winds will shift at least two
more times, right? We're going to get a new mayor. We're going to have at least two
more elections before the next plan comes out. So and we do work with the council
members. I don't think you're going to see them come in and brief us or -- but I do think
that we will be able to interact with them and hear what they have to say. That
-- I will tell you that just being here for a little while, there's a thing called Open Meeting
Laws in Arizona, which there probably is, you know, throughout the United States.
Very -- very touchy. Very -- I'm now cognizant that this is transcribing but open meeting
laws are important. And we always need to make sure we have a quorum, and that
business is done out in the open in an official, right, meeting. So things we talk about, if
we want to have a -- an opinion from the -- from the Council, we do that in either their
open session, I go and brief them, or we go and brief them during their open session. Or
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we do go and brief them once a year. They have a retreat in February and -- and we go
there and talk to them for that day as well.
So those are kind of opportunities. But we always kind of got to do it in an official
meeting where quorums arc present. Right? That's --
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Absolutely.
GARMAN: -- that's what I've been accustomed to. Okay. Anything else? Okay. Thank
you all very much. Thank you all. Thank you for sitting in, by the way. Thank you very
much for your presentation today.
I'm going to go ahead and adjourn this -- the Strategic Planning Advisory Commission
for Fountain Hills today. So thank you all very much.
And we'll see you next month on June 28th, the Wednesday before the Fourth of July
weekend. All right? Thank you.
[MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:52 P.M.]
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