HomeMy WebLinkAboutMMPC.2023.0124.MinutesTOWN OF FOUNTAIN HILLS
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
OF THE MCDOWELL MOUNTAIN PRESERVATION COMMISSION
JANUARY 24, 2023
1. CALL TO ORDER at 5:02 PM
2. ROLL CALL
Present Chairman Scott Grzybowski; Commissioner Brian Jennings; Commissioner Bill
Craig; Commissioner Janice Holden; Commissioner DJ Willard; Commissioner
Steven Nurney; Commissioner Sherry Irwin
Staff Parks Superintendent Kevin Snipes; Executive Assistant Patti Lopuszanski
Present:
3. CALL TO THE PUBLIC - NONE
Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.01(H), public comment is permitted (not required) on matters
NOT listed on the agenda. Any such comment (i) must be within the jurisdiction of the
Commission, and (if) is subject to reasonable time, place, and manner restrictions. The
Commission will not discuss or take legal action on matters raised during Call to the
Public unless the matters are properly noticed for discussion and legal action. At the
conclusion of the Cali to the Public, individual commissioners may (i) respond to criticism,
(ii) ask staff to review a matter, or (iii) ask that the matter be placed on a future
Commission agenda.
4. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Approval of the MMPC Meeting Minutes
of September 27, 2022
MOVED BY Commissioner DJ Willard, SECONDED BY Commissioner Brian Jennings
Vote: 7 - 0 - Unanimously
5. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Approval of the MMPC Meeting Minutes of
October 25, 2022 TABLED
Chair Grzybowski informed the commissioners that the Minutes of October 25, 2022
would be tabled until the next meeting due to transcription problems.
6. CONSIDERATION & POSSIBLE ACTION: Approval of the MMPC Meeting Minutes of
November 22, 2022
MOVED BY Commissioner Bill Craig, SECONDED BY Commissioner DJ Willard
Vote: 7 - 0 - Unanimously
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7. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Trail Naming Survey Report
Vice -Chair Nurney provided an overview of the Trail Naming Survey results:
• Approximately 100 volunteers were invited to participate in the email survey
with 51 responses recorded.
• The first proposal was to start the Ridgeline Trail at the trailhead, and have the
Overlook essentially be a spur. The options for response were, do you think this
would make trail navigation easier for people who are not familiar with the
preserve? Or do you not?- 70% of 47 people, in this case, thought that that was a
useful idea.
• The second question was regarding the Andrew Kinsey Western bike loop, and
that was the one that received the highest percentage of folks who agreed that it
would be good to make that change. The change noted to essentially eliminate the
Western bike loop. A lot of comments mentioned it is not for bikes and not a
loop. So why do we call it a bike loop?
• The third was changing the name of the Western loop. About two-thirds favored
that idea, 1/3 didn't think that that would improve anything.
• The fourth was, the one that we knew would be the most controversial, and that
was essentially eliminating the name and the Promenade Trail and changing it to
the Sonoran.
Commissioner Irwin and Commissioner Jennings were in favor of the Ridgeline change.
Commissioner Nurney added that he would recommend rather than changing the name
to change the signage which would be less controversial. Chairman Grzybowski added
that there was no rush for name changes at this time.
8. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Possible New Trails for Vetting
It was determined that Possible New Trail Vetting would be discussed further at the
February meeting.
9. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Trailhead Rules
MOVED BY Chairman Scott Grzybowski, SECONDED BY Commissioner Brian Jennings
Vote: 7 - 0 - Unanimously
It was voted to approve the Golden Eagle Trailhead Rules and Adero Canyon Rules as
amended with the following changes:
• Golden Eagle Sign - Change the word "lease" to "leash"
• Trailhead Rules - proper spelling for the word "harassing"
10. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Adero Canyon Trailhead Welcome Signage
Mr. Snipes provided the newly constructed gate signage for the commissioners to see
prior to it being installed at the trailhead by staff.
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11. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Joint Meeting MMPC and Sonoran
Conservancy
MMPC had previous discussions on the inclusion of a future agenda for a joint meeting to
be held with the Sonoran Conservancy Fountain Hills. A working group made up of Chair
Grzybowski, Commissioner Nurney and Commissioner Holden will meet with Ms.
Goodwin and Mr. Snipes to discuss the scope of MMPC and Sonoran Conservancy and
how to be more effective.
12. DISSCUSSION: Non Native Plant (NNP) - Buffelgrass on North Leg
Chairman Grzybowski and Commissioner Craig spoke about their observations of a lot of
buffelgrass on the North Leg Trail that they found while on the trails. This invasive grass
can not be pulled and thrown out but must be disposed of accordingly to not spread
further. Discussion continued with Mr. Snipes asking what herbicides were being used in
Scottsdale.
13. UPDATE: Sonoran Conservancy Fountain Hills Liaison
Commissioner Craig informed the commissioners that the trailblazers should finish the
North Lake Trail in February. On Saturday, they were installing the first half of signs for
the Lower Ridgeline Trail. He shared that he put in a request with Mr. Snipes and
Ms.Goodwin to look at possibly reworking two of the bad areas on the Lake Overlook
Trail.
14. UPDATE: Parking at Adero Canyon Trailhead - Status of Cameras
Mr. Snipes informed the commissioners that he would get a status update from Justin
Weldy on the timeline for technology to be secured for cameras at the Adero Canyon
Trailhead.
15. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Hunting in the Preserve
Mr. Snipes stated that everything shared with the Town through legal counsel as well as
from fishing and game is that our Preserve is off limits by town authority to make that
decision for hunting. Per Fishing and Game it's not an authorized hunting area.
16. DISCUSSION: Promenade Entrance Improvements
The Promenade entrance is in need of improvement due to I se granite and discussion
about the progress of this project was discussed. Mr. Snipes shared that a supplement in
the FY24 budget would cover redoing the trail there by moving it over with the help of
Justin Weldy. Staloc, a product from Stabilizer Solutions, will be used on this project.
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17. DISCUSSION: Borrow a Bell
Commissioner Jennings presented information for consideration regarding implementing
the Borrow a Bell program to address the growing potential of accidents on a trail with
hikers, trail runners and cyclists. The program was initiated by Central Coast Concerned
Mountain Bikers (CCCMB) on California's Central Coast. Samples of the bells were
shared with commissioners to hear and it was stated that if hikers could hear
approaching mountain bikers, there would be more time for all trail users to meet safely.
Bell Boxes can be built and installed at the trailheads and exits to the MMPC.
Upon further discussion, it was determined this program would not be well received by
mountain bikers and would not move forward for conisderation.
18. REVIEW AND DISCUSSION: Trail Counter Activity
The Trail Counter Report was reviewed with no further discussion.
19. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Future Agenda Items
Commissioner Craig requested that North Leg Trail signs be placed on the list for a
Future Agenda
20. UPDATE: Next MMPC Meeting February 28, 2023. Agenda and attachments due by
February 14, 2023 to be included in the next meeting packet.
The upcoming meeting date was discussed with the need to submit agenda items two
weeks prior to the meeting.
21. ADJOURNMENT at 7:06 PM
MOVED BY Commissioner Steven Nurney, SECONDED BY Commissioner Janice
Holden
Vote: 7 - 0 - Unanimously
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ATTEST AND PREPARED BY:
Patti Lopuszanski, Fxe
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MCDOWELL MOUNTAIN PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Sco Grzybowski, Chairman
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and correct copy of the minutes of the Regular
Meeting held by the Fountain Hills McDowell Mountain Preservation Commission in the Town Hall
Council Chambers on the 24th day of January, 2023. I further certify that the meeting was duly called
and that a quorum was present.
Dated April 3, 2023.
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atti Lopuszanski, xec a Assistant