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HomeMy WebLinkAboutHCAC.2025.0205.MinutesHIST�RY AND CULTilRE ADVI50RY COMMI5510N FEERUARY 5, 2025 VERSATIM MEETING MINUTES TUWN UF FDUIVTAIN HILLS MINUTES QF THE REGLJLAR MEETING HISTaRY AND CULTURE ADVIS�RY C�MMISSIDN FEBRUARY 5, 2025 A Regular Histary and Culture Ad�isary Commission meeting was con�ened at 167[)5 E. Avenue of the Fountains at 4:�0 p.m. in open and pubiic session. Members Present: Chair Tim Y�der; ViGe-Chair Susan Obst-Dworkis; Commissioner Bab BurnS; Commissianer Peter Gal�agher; Commissioner Bonnie Kline, Co�nmissioner Toni LePaer; Vacant Seat Staff Fresent: Recreation Manager Ryan Preston; Executi�e Assistant Paula Woadward ���AI��1 o � �� �� � � �; � �� � ,, �+ ��,,� z �� n � _�� r.. a i 1 r �C � ' �O • � � �f��hri t 15 A�l�o� - 1 - httqs:llotter.ai HISTQF�Y AND CULTLTRE ADVISQRY COMMISSI�N FEBRI]ARY 5, 2Q25 VEABATIM MEETING MiN[]TE5 Y�D�ER: Good day. I want to call the February 5, 2�25, ineeting af the History and Culture Ad�isary Cornmission to order at 4 p.rn. May I ha�e a Rall Call, please`? WQQDWARD: Chair Yader? YUDER: Here. WDaDWARD: Vice Chair Dbst-Dw�rkis`? OB5T-DW�RKIS: Here. W�QDWARD: Commissioner Kline? KLINE: Here. WUDDWARII: Commissioner LePoer? LEPUER: Here. W�ODWARD: Commissioner Burns? B�JRNS: Here. WnDDWARD: Cammissianer Gallagher? GALLAGHER: Here. Y�DER: All right, �ery goad. I think we'Il g� ahead and skip the Call to the Public, as we often do, and mo�e ta Reparts by Commissioners. Do any �f the �ommissioners ha�e anything to report that is not related to the business af the cammission? BiJRNS: I'll start with spme quick infannation Qn the table we set up for the Expo. It went pretty weli. With the help af the mu5eum, we were ab�e to get same phatos ta put an display there, and there was a lot af interest in what we were daing there. So, I think it went well. Yau and Bannie were both there at some point. Y�DER: I agree. I thought it was well attended, and while I was there for just an h�our, I think I spake with close ta 10 different people. I was just there for an hour. Sa, anybady else? Thanks, Bab. GALLAGHER: I'in not sure if this is the business af the cammissian or not, but last mon#h, we spake a little bit abaut the baok Rising Abo�e the Rest, and I met with some peaple at the Ri�er af Time Museum, and they are indeed �ery interested. PRESTON: Okay, that would be a t�pic, an agenda topic that we �an bring up, but yeah, that ane is discussing past business, and it would be an agenda tapic. GALLAGHER: All right. YQDER: �kay, thanks, Ryan. We'l] come back to that here in a little bit Peter Thank yau. OBST-DW�RKIS: I just wanted ta say that I attended the talk that Tam Aiello, who is the head of the Crisis Respanse Team, gave at the Cainmunity Center. It was �ery well attended, because I also �olunteer far the Crisis Response Team. I wauld say, we were almost at capacity at the e�ent, and I think it was very well recei►�ed. - 2 - htt�s:llatter.ai HISTORYAND C[7LTURE ADV750RY COMMI55ION FEBRUARY 5, 2025 VERSATIM MEET]NG MINUTES Y�DER: Anybady eise? I'll speak for a quick minute pertaining to t�e visian statement of the commission, howe�er, done pri�ately, I held that history of Fountain Hills talk last week at the Caminunity Center, and it was �ery well attended. Kathleen Kruty over there informed me that people were �ery happy with that. The history of Fauntain Hi115 that I did was more oriented towards the builder of Fountain Hills, ar ane of the builders of Fountain Hil�s, namely rny family's company. So, it was a lot of fun, and it's on YauTu}�e. Anather Izttle qui�k thing related ta kind af Toni's interest, T taak a walk at the fountaiz� taday, with the specific intention to kind of loak at some art and see what that loaked like and check aut the plaques and the Iack af codes and so forth. And I See that there's sQme work there to be dane. Anybady eise? �kay? Wetl, ma�ing along, Cansideratinn Appro�ing the Histary and Culture Ad�isary Commission Meeting Minutes from .ianuary S, 2Q25. Daes anyb�dy have a comment? Can I get a motian to appro�e? GALLAGHER: I ma�e to appro�e the minutes. BURNS: I'lt secQnd. Y�DER: All in fa�ar. ALL: Aye. WOQDWARD: 6-� Unanimausly. YDDER: Any opposed? Very good. Naw we have.... PREST�N: 5a I'd like to jump in at this paint. I was hoping to do a quick presentation an what was submitted to the state for the historical status af the fountain. YQDER: Qh, fantastic. I inissed that on here, but #hat is great. Thank yau. PREST�N: All right, am I on here? Qkay, it laoks like this might be the best �iew I'm getting with what I have here. But basically, this past week, we did submit our applicatian to the state fQr the histarical status. We're waiting to hear back. I just wanted to kind ofbring you through more �f the photo package that we decided to submit. This is a presentation of that phatQ package. The photos were alsa included in the submissian. Sa, I'm just gving to kind of bnng yau thraugh that. Feel free if yau ha�e any questions. Let me knaw. If anybady's seen Ke�in'S presentation on the histary of the fQuntain. This was modified after that, with quite a few of the images switched out. So, I know we had December 7, 1971, on our submission that was updated ta reflect December 15, 1970, as the first tiine it was turned on. And none of the images are laading. Fantastic. Let me switch o�er. We are having techni�al difficu�ties getting this up. Take a quick look at that while I get the actual farm sent ta me. Qkay, all right, yep, go ahead. YQDER: Did you say this was submitted ta the state? PRESTQN: This has been suhmitted to the state. YUDER: Awesame. - 3 - https:llatter.ai HfSTQRY AND CULTiJRE ADVIS�RY C�MMISSIQN FEBAUAI�Y 5, 2U25 VERSATIM MEETING MINUTES PRESTQN: Correct? And so, this is what we filled out. Again, you'll see the only difference hetween what you guys had, and what e�erybody here put tagether, was changing the date from 1971 ta 197a again, that was I]ecember af 197fl so that was updated. We've alsa added a line sin�e we fQund out recently that the fountain is no langer the �ourth tallest in the warld. It is the third tallest. The fauntain in St. Louis was shut down ab�ut a year and a half ago which has mo�ed us to the third tallesi, and I belie�e the tallest in the US. And sa that was added inta one of the continuation pages that, again, nothing is puliing up on these docuinents, whi�h is �ery strange. Let me try to dawnload these again. I apologize. I will try one more time here. Not gaing well for me. All right, I may have ta update you guys more on that later. I'm sarry I got yau all hyped up and it lo�ks like due to te�hnical difficulties, it's not going well. Let me go ahead and gi�e it ane more go here. INAi1DISLE SPEAKER: �Microphane was not on.} PRESTUN: That's carrect. A great question. I'm not 1 Q�% sure on that answer. I can find that for yau and get hack. I cauld make one up, hut I'd rather get the actual answer to you here. All right, sa naw we're in. Now everything's ioaded. 5a, a cauple of historical photas. This is kind of ciuring the setup, and this is right after the pump house was campleted. Here this phata, it's Robert McCullough and CV Wood tagether reviewing the plans and the pumps. They're kind af looking over the plans for the tawn with the fountain in the background there. Here is a shot of the lily pad. This is the cir�pping in af the nozzle with some information on the nozzle as well. Sa this is when it was First put into place. And that's kind ❑f a here's a really cao� shot that's an upshot of the nazzle being placed in position an the fauntain. Oh, thanlc you to Bob Burns af the Fountain, Hills Tiines-Independent, for helping me identify e�erybady in these photas. I sai�i, thank you fQr helping me identify e�erybpdy in the photos. And then more nazzle informatian, it's a uniqu� part of the fauntain. So the nazzle weighs 2000 pounds. It's mare than seven feet tall. It's a three-part nozzle designed with a ho11Qw center to mix the air and water, which forms a unique jet stream tha� we ha�e. It was built in Zurich, Switzerland. The 1$-inch Main Line, going fram the pump hause to the fountain, feeds it, and the fountain is about 550, feet fr�m the pump hause. Some more ph�tos. This ane here is they're installing the ribs on the lily pad. These are same shots, more recent shots inside. And this kind of unique shot was really coal. That's the o�erhead af the lily pad as well. Just inore, more photos of it being built. So this is the pump house before there was a pump house around it. These are th� three pumps being installed, This is a shat from the pump h�u�e aut t� the lake, and this is now mc�stly co�ered water is what flows through here as the intake is what that is as well. And that's them craning in one and again, all these phatas were uplaaded indi�idualiy with the attachment. Here are a cauple of o�erhead shots they took fro�n the choppers ❑f Fountain Hil�s in the 1970s again, I knaw, Titn, � wat�hed your presentatian. A lot of these phatas probably loak familiar to you, but, and there's a cool - 4 - httns:llofter.ai HISTflRY AIVD CULTURE ADVISDRY C�MMISSI�N FEBRUARY 5, 2�25 VERBATIM MEETING MINUTES photo c�ming up with this �omparison. We included a lot of the originaI plans for the jet as well as the state. And hcre are just some pictures that wcre taken more sales photos af just people enjoying the spa�e in the fountain. So we got a couple enjnying it here, a c�uple of �awboys, a couple goin� far a walk. And again, #his one Here is, I believe McCullough again, I belie�e they arc, nope, ne�er mind. That is, they are touring far praperty there. Few uses of it now that we wanted to include a tittle hit of wha# it looks like now. So this is, again, just to remind what it lookec� like before laaks like now. These are three of our signature e�ents. You see, St Patri�k's Day, Fourth at the Fauntain, and Music Fest. All the fauntains lit up in dif�erent calors. And tinally, kind af a side-by-side, the closest I can try to get to the same anglc and shot that they took an the chapper from our from the sateliite imagery, kind of then and now, fram 197(] I shauld probabiy ha�e the date on that photo. And then, ob�iously, this is what we taok a little more like t�day. And that's submitted these photQs again, the presentatian was submitted and e�erything, hut this last slide was submitted in photo form as well. Any questions about that? YDDER: Na, that lnnks great, perfect. KLINE: Sa where are the phatas a�aiiable? PREST�N: So these photos currently, I don't know if they're on the website anywhere. These were all internal photas. I can wark with Patti �n maybe rnaking these a�ai]able. KLINE: It seems like they would be goad ones for the Ri�er o#' Time Museum to ha�e on dispiay nr in their archi�es at least. PREST�N: �kay. Sounds good. Thank you. Y�DER: Thank you, Ryan, that's great news. We ha�e ta keep our fingers crc�ssed that the fountain gets recognized. LEPDER: Wrong button. Sa, what does getting designated a histori�a� tandmark I'm assuming, what does it put us Qn a map? Daes it �i�e us funding`? ]ust out of curiosity? PRESTON: Yep, and that's samething we can tatk about. That'li be the next step when we go for national as well. Yeah, ynu da get �n certain regis#rar, certain lists, and you would be a�ailable far grants that would Qtherwise be una�ailable. There are also requirements an things like maintenance and things like that as well. Sn there will be some specifics that would c�me down with it. LEPQER: Being fram Washington, DC, I'�e seen a lot ❑f spaces turned inta historical registries, so just kind af curious about what it offercd us. Y�DER: Tons and tons of presti�e, globai fame. All right, thank you again for #hat. Mo�in� right along then let's laok at the Paints af interest Plaque Verbiage that was amended, and go through that. Who are we talking to abou# this`? I think you did you. PREST�N: So I don't see it in our pa�ket and so what it was, and I belie�e Commissioner �bst-Dworkis, yau had rnentioned, I belie�e what it was is we rnentioned fram the Midwest, it - 5 - httas:llotter.ai HISTdRY AND CLILTURE Ai�VCSQRY CQMMI55I�N FESt�UARY 5, 2�25 VERBATIM MEETING M�NI,ITES was settled, and you wanted to include lar�guage, including the Northeast or the East as well. Sa if you want to, ifyau want to speak ta that. �BST-DWaRKIS: I didn't know if it wou�d be possihle ta add East Coast ❑r sarne other or northeast to the �erbiage, just so that people don't think that everybody came from #he Midwest, an the planc, on the taurs that McCullach prt�rrided, that's all. PRESTaN: And for spccific language, if we need a vote an the amendment, what would we be looking for? Wou1d it be Midwest and you wanted to add East and Nartheast, and anywhere specific? So that's something that you guys can discuss. GALLAGHER: Perhaps simplify... SURNS: Yeah, siinplify, across the country, GALLAGHER: Various parts of the country, yes. PREST�N: And a�ain, this is for yQu guys ta decide and �ote on what you'd �ike. YUDER: I'm open to anything. I believe I ha�e read ar�d am aware that McCulloch primarily ad�ertised in the Midwest and New York, but I ha�en't e�er hear�t anything t�ther than those two places mentianed. But why nat just be general "acrass the country"? That sounds g�od, you know, I think. �BST-DW�RKIS: I wauld he gaad with Ehat. LEP�ER: I think it would make more sense. PRESTQN: Dkay, so Chair Yoder if yau want to �et some, if we �ant to ha�e a final language, is it going to be f'rom across the L]S? �r what's the language we want to repia�e it with? YQDER: Yeah, let's get a motian ta �erhaps use the �erbiage af "acrass the United States" in plac� af " the Midwest." Can I gct a motion? KLINE: I'll make that motifln. LEPQER: I'll second i# YQDER: All in favor. ALL: Aye. YODER: Any opposed? W�ODWARD: 6-0 C]nanimausly. KLINE: �kay, I ha�e anather �omment, an� I hQpc it doesn't throw a m�nkey wrench into e�erything, but T was wondering why the piaque at the high school parking lot, that monument, wasn't included if that should be on the inciuded with the list af historic sites. PREST�N: And I could pr�bably help answer that because it's already listed. Tt already has a plaque. These were fi�e ❑f the next paints of interest to then da that toa as well, add those plaques and add the �erbiage for it. I{I,INE: Atl right, thank you. - fi- htt�s:llatte r. a i H15T�RY AND CULTI]RE AI]V150RY COMMISSI�N FEBRUARY 5, ZaZS VERBATIM MEETING MINCITES YQDER: �kay, let'S ma�e on then to the Histarical Essay Contest Warkgrnup []pdate fvr Cansideratian and Possible A�tivn. Peter and I loaked it a�er, unfortunately, Bannie was not abie ta chime in. Peter suggested that we make a c�ange to one part of the rough draft. Peter, can I ask you ta talk about that? GALLAGHER: Initially, it loaked like a contest far children from Kindergarten to 1�th grade, and I thaught perhaps we would want ta split that into at least two groups, maybe Kindergarten or first grade ta sixth grade and se�enth to 12th ❑r whate��r numbers you want to choose because I cannot iinagine a six ar s��en-year-ald competing with a 17-year-old for this kind of a project. YQDER: I agree with that. I think that's on the secand page of the rough draft, and it's anly pertinent ta the �isual art5 contest topics because the essay t�pics are restricted alreac�y to sixth thraugh 12th grade. We're not gQing ta have first-graders writing essays. AnQther thing that I suggested considering the re�ent poetry �ontest that we had and the ca�endar, I think Peter was alsa in agreement with that, and perhaps Bonnie tao. But thaught maybe, if this cvuld get appra�ed as an idea for next school year, that ance that gets appra�ed, then I cauld mayhe, ar satneb�dy could gQ ta the schaai board and sell this idea, with the ca�eat that we will be caining back in the fall or early winter to suUmit this inaterzal for them, for the teac�ers, to pass aut, and that kind of thing. One af the inain reasans was it's a lot tess rushed, and I persanaliy don't like to do things �ery rushed. But also, next year i5 the 2SDth anni�ersary of the country on July 4 n�xt year, and there will be a lat of facus an history generally in schoals across the nation. And I think kind of doubling up on that would Ue a good idea. That's my thought. KLINE: So I did reply t� Patti, and I'in sarry it didn't get transferred to you that I like the idea of the timing and alsa of the di�isian �f the age groups. PRESTQN: Sa from the town's perspecti�e, I think, there's n� way we're getting it in this year iirst of all, yeah. So that makes sense. And I lo�ve the idea of you being able t� go to the baard and get buy-in this year, if possible, f�r the cantest next year. And I think tying that in with the 250th anni�ersary is I think that'll work out reaIly well. And I think we're alI for that. So as saan as the workgroup has soinething put together that yau're ready t❑ present and vote on, that you want to present to the baard as a gr�up. I think that would be fantastic. QBST-DWDRKIS: I just ha�e ..... I agree abaut the ages. Do you think that we should split it inta three, like we did wi#h the poetry? Far the �isual or do yau just want to da it too, to di�ide it in two? PRESTON: I think I had made t�at note as well, that ha�ing maybe a K through second, third through iifth, 6th -$th i�' you're daing all of them, YQDER: Well, that that �ea�es vut the high schoo�ers. �kay, then yau als❑ do a nine through 1 Z. So far the �isua� arts, faur different categ�ries. 7 - httqs:llatter.ai HISTDRY AND C[3LTURE ADVISQRY COMMISSI�IV FEBRUARY S, 2025 VERBATIM MEETING MINUTES Px�sTonr: �vo, it would be three. Y�DER: Well, Ryan just said, K through twa, three through five, six through eight, and then nine through 12. That would be faur. Historically, that's how I'�e seen it split up again. PRESTON: You know, Chair Yoder, y�u are the schaal teacher, so you knaw that is typically h�w we'�e done it. Then I know that puts faur different categories twice, sa yau're n�w judging eight different categories. YUDER: Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily increase or decrease the o�erall applications or submissians. Sa, I don't think it makes a difference. It may make it a Iittle easier to grade. The only other thing I would say is this. So, this is the rough draft, and we talked abaut this last meeting that this will need in terms of the deli�ery to the school next fall ar winter. This will need ta he impro�ed, which is something I cannot do. So, I wauld like to have, 1} some assurances that that will be done and prepared for me in time because I can ga with just the raugh draft to the school hoard this spring. That's na prohlem. Propose the concept and tell them, you know, we'll be back with the paperwork next y�ar. 2} The oth�r thing that is, I think, out ❑f our pur�iew, and I'm looking to use spe�ifically Ryan on this, and that is, these, the last page talks abaut the prizes, and that that's samething that I think we dan't have any control o�er be�ause we ha�e na, I mean, we ha�e no maney, so we can't and we talked about maybe gift card5 or recognitian at the tawn council meeting, inaybe Qn this tflwn social media mentions for these winners. Sut that's that, is that soinething we decide, PREST�N: I cauld probably pro�ide a l�udget. Yau guys can come up with some ideas, and then we'll take that and run with it. Sv let me, let me put that tagether, and Y can email it to the warkgraup ance we ha�e a number on that. I mean, we ha�e to a5sume we've got four groups times twa we are prabably gQing ta da prabably top three of each graup. Are we d�ing the top one of �ach graup? I'm not sure w�at we have outlined sa far. And then ob�iously, loak at the budget far prizes within that we da want to gi�e an incenti�e for the kids and reward them for the hard wark, and it i� samething that w� can probably huild int❑ aur current fiscal budget and ha�e enough ta ca�er those prizes. So let me get yaur number on that. And iike I said, I'll send that out to the wark group either this week ar next. And yeah, and as far as the marketing and the presentation, we �ould put samething together, as long as we ha�e the final copy, and you know, all the prompts and everything are finalized, we can throw together soinething that looks flashy for you. YQDER: Dkay, so I can rework the raugh draft language regarding the �isual arts things and the breakdown ❑f the thing. I'Il wait for informatian from you abaut prize a�ailability and suggestions, and maybe we can talk about this again next ineeting, just like putting the final cross an th� T and the dvt an the i. - $ - httqs:llotter.ai HISTQRY AND Ci;LTUAE ADVISORY ��MMI55ION FEBRCIARY 5, 2�25 VER�ATIM MEETING MINllTES PRESTUN: Sounds good. Yep, we'll lea�e it an, and we can hopefully maybe take a �ate on the final draft next week or next month. YaDER: Daes anybady else ha�e anything`? Dkay, let's..... BURNS: I just ha�e a questian, because making note that the pQetry contest had soYne kids that were Fauntain Hills residents, certainly, but they weni ta ather schoals. Reach aut ta the district here. But, and maybe Ryan knows how was dane with the poetry contrast, how ward gat ta, yau knaw, the other students. PRESTQI�T: I would say, focus on the Fountain Hilis, Unified School District. The �ther ane was Inspiration Acadeiny, which we can reach out to as well. They're always big participants, if we'd like, the Basis, students who applied were part of our Mayor's Youth Council, and there are l�cal kids, and that's how we pushed it aut to aur Mayar's Yauth Council as well. KLINE: Just wanted t❑ throw aut an idea as far as the gifts or the prizes, with the idea that it's educational, maybe there could be some museutn passes or that kind of thing included in the package, like same of the museums in the Phaenix area. YQDER: I think that'S a caol idea and I see Ryan jotting furiaus nates down, ar no furiausiy jotting nates down. LEPQER: The music instrument inuseum might be a fun ane for the lcids. Yeah, that would be e�en inodestly clase. PRESTDN: Sa the MIM, the Science Museum, the local museums, and that could be s�mething as a workgroup, if yau guy5 wanted ta ❑n the side to reach �ut ta thase, because they may donate those, most �ikely, a few of those too. I knaw for sw-e, like the Phaenix Children's Museu�n will. Th�y'�e done it before. So some great ideas. YQDER: Qkay, na final cam�nents after those final com�nents, let's mo�e an ta Item number eight, the Re�iew and Discussion Poli�ies and Procedures of the Histary and Culture Ad�isary Commission. PRESTaN: I know it was braught up. I don't kn�w if Commissianer Bwns had brought this up, I know we started talkin� about it. I know we ha�e currently the Visian, Mission, and Duties autlined. I don't think we had a lot af notes fram anybody at the last meeting on this. But if anybady had looked at it, anybady want to add anything or discuss the Missian, Vision, or Duties of this commis5ipn? S[]RNS: Yeah, Ryan, I thinlc my pre�iaus cominent wa5 just, yau know, made as I was daing a little research for what I'd written ❑n sam�thing else, I noticed that on the town website anyway, of the cQmmissions that this is the only one that has a Vision Statement or a Missian and I wasn't necessarily looking to Ynake any changes Qr anything. It just was mare ar less an ❑bser�ation, if you wi�l. - 9 - https:llatter.ai HiSTORY AND CULTURE ADVIS�RY COMMI55ION FEBRiIARY 5, 2�Z5 VERBATIM MEETI�iG MINiITES PRESTQN: Ii's also a good time to discuss the direction of the coir�missian. If anybady has any thaughts on that, anything yau'd like ta see? VVe're going ta be getting t� item 1 d soon and loaking at work groups as well. Sa, we'll be able ta discuss mare detail during that item. But it's also a good tiine ta discuss that. If anybody has anything ta bring up, specifically aur newer members as well, �n the directipn yau see us ino�zng forward. UBST-llWURI�IS: I think, if I rememl�er correctly, what we wanted, excuse me, was more of a directian of what the Town Council expects us to da, and I dan't know if we apprpach them or how we go about that. PRESTQN: And it comes from both sides, right? For example, Historical Status and now Public Art, are bath brought dawn frain the Town Council to this commission, And, you know, we ha�en't gotten a whale lot of updates in that directian lately. It's been abvivusly a change o�er here recently, and I'm sure we're still kind af everybody finding their feet in that regard. But it's also caining up with ideas. I mean, we had the Essay Cantest, and if it, if it sti�ks and it's sainething that the town is interested in, then we mo�e forward with it. The Points af �nterest where actually I can pr��ide maybe later, or maybe I can do a presentation next week an wher� we are with Points of Interest and loaking at �laques. We are moving forward with a lat of that right naw behind the scen�s. Sa it's those ideas that you guys can talk about, whether it's in under number 10 here with aur work groups, projects that you want to take on as well, the town will cantinue tv wark t❑ hring things your way. Public art is going tQ take up a portion ❑f that, far sure, but it's a mix of both, I guess, to answer your questian as well. KLINE: So ane thought that I had is there's a lot of publicity out there about different citie5 and areas ❑f Arizona by the Office of Taurism and ather graups, so it might be good to review what they say about our town and see if we want t� camment on it or make suggestions to the Dffice of Tourism or ather entities that talk about Fauntain Hills. PRESTON: Qkay, we can laok at that a little more when we're lo�king at work groups as well, and discuss that further. Y�DER: �kay, yeah, that's a gaod idea. T also think I knaw that we're still getting this �erbiage worked out, ar finalizing the verbiage for these plaques, for the first, I belie�e it was fi�e histvrical pla�es vf n�te in the town, and we did that, and it was annaunced last year. And we're getting that ball rolling. I think next year maybe, did we say, like, every cauple of years, we would revisit that and maybe add Qne or twa or t�ree. Sa, regarding the future concepts, I w�uld say maybe, like in the fall, we shauld initiate a can�ersatian to perhaps name anather one or two places next year in the spring. PRESTQN: I believe ihe initial list had, I belie�e, quite a few, more than fi�e. And so that's a list we can go aff of. And sa, yeah, absolutely, that's something we'll pr�hably lea�e on and something that at some point will, most likely, the fi�e that we selected in the �erbiage will - 90 - httqs:lla#ter.ai HISTORY AND C[lLTURE AIlVISQRY CQMMISSiaN FEgRi]ARY 5, 2Q25 VERBATIM MEETIIVG MINUTES probably go befare the council at some point naw that we ha�e �ated �n final �erbiage hecause this is the first time I think we have a finalized �ote on the �erl�iage for the plaques. After all, last tnanth we had the ainendment that wanted to push through. And sa naw that we ha�e that finalized, I'll work with siaff and see if it is something that has to go through council or if it's soinething that can skip council appro�al. But I'll keep you guys updated on that. KLINE: Ar� there liinitations, ar are you taoking like the first hotei in town pr things that no langer exist? PRESTQN: So we're going to get a little bit aff-topic. I'll probably ha�e to kind af rear back on here a little bit when we will prabably ha�e t� wait on that topic until tnaybe the next meeting when we can bring back the verbiage. Sarry abaut that. Y�DER: No, that's fine. And then I'm an o�erview guy, and excuse me if this sounds, a little slaw, but this tawn here is just a fantasti� tawn, I guess it's known far I think we should tnaybe think abaut we're known for a huge, wanderful spectacle, the fountain, great �iews, and lifestyle, arts, the new abser�atory is gaing to be earth-shaking. Sa four things are notable. Maybe we could spend a Iittle time in the future defining if thase are the four, or if there needs ta be six or eight of them, major def nitional points to the town and kind of work off of that for the future, just thinking out laud. 4kay, if that's it, we'il ma�e right on to Re�iew and Discussion Qutreach, Valunteer Qpportunities. This pertains ta samething Sob said right at the beginning af the meeting regarding the EXPO. PRESTDN: I think we just added tk�is as well. This is our list af e�ents. It's nat samething where inost of these e�ents we're nat gaing to be able to have, like a History and Culture booth. It's not gaing to work out a ir�ajority afthese e�ents. I'm reaching aut right naw with the Chamt�er, but again, it's finding the right fit the EXP� I think was a great fit for �hat. So you guys, if you want to loak at it and yau'�e had some suggestions, I can either say yes ar na right off the bat, Qr I can get back to you on some of them. But if you had ideas, I know the Fountain Festi�al was thrown out at the Fair, sarry. Irish Fest was put up. Irish Fest, we won't be able ta ha�e anything out there. Sv if you guys ha�e any other ideas or any flther suggestians, let me know. We can write them down. I can loak into them, or I can gi�e you an answer right away. KLINE: The Fourth �f ]uly, because it has to do with history, wauld be a gaod one. PREST�N: Yep, that one's possib�e but remember when it's 115 degrees. I'll ?ook into that one. Because we are kind of packed in the area that we are, but putting maybe somewhere else is a possibility, and it'll be a good tie together, Bu# just remember, it's 115-1�0 degrees. KLINE: Y�ah, that's a �ery gaod point. LEPDER: Peaple dan't tend to be in�al�ed in that sort af thing an Fourth of J�ly here, I've n�ticed it's mare invol�ed in the music and the pe�ple and the stuff going on. I'm nat sure haw many people we would get stopped by a booth at that paint. - 11 - httqs:llvtter.ai HISTQRY AND CULTURE ADVIS�RY COMMISSIDN FEBRUARY S, 2a25 VERBATIM MEETIiVG MINUTES PRESTUN: And now it cames with ��lunteerism tao. Sa �olunteerism is on here as well. So all the e�ents yau see befare you if ypu're loaking at yaur packet in front of you. T�ose are open to being a �olunteer. A lat ❑f them are �aiunteers at the tawn tent. If you happen t� stop and talk ta them about History and Culture, nobody's going t� stop you. And so we da ha�e �alunteer spaces open just for our e�ents. For example, for Irish Fest, as a caminissioner, you can we only town staff can exchange and handle money as a cammissioner, yau can do that, and we're always looking far volunteers to h�lp with that. But yeah, I�nean y�u can have a table, you can be at the town tent, and you can, you can talk about what you do as well. People do stap by, m�stly for free stuff, but you will ha�e a few seconds ta talk to them as well. SLTRNS: Excuse tne, Ryan, just loaking at this calendar you guys presented us here with see a couple of events that might be kind of interesting. And I hate to put myself out there again like this, but it might be interesting to set a little bit of a table up for the Teen Takeover, you knaw, get kind of talk to young peaple about what was, what's gaing on here, or what has happened here in the last in since the tawn came about, and the Irish Fest, you knaw, going back to the beginning, there has its own fascinating, intere�ting history that I'm not sure haw hard it would be to prepare something tc� f�cus on that in the length of time we're talking abaut. PREST�N: I ha�e soine thoughts on that. As yau menti�ned it. I dan't know if Irish Fest, I mean, it's you're gQing to ha�e a lot of distracted people, where you cauld ha�e a facus of people, where it's nat the same amaunt ❑f attendance, but you're stil l getting 1 Q40 people aut there is the Greening. And I think that's where mare the history lies. Is in the Greening �f the Fauntain. And I'm thir�king, so we do that's histori�ally on St Patrick's day e�ery year. 5o that's on a Manday this year, and there are no other boQths set up. See, I could get us a space at the actual greening, as opposed to maybe a# Irish Fest. Maybe we could do bath, but 1 think we'd ha�e mare success witi� a target audience at the greening than at Irish Fest. GALLAGHER: Sa this document says you're going to green the fountain �n the 15th. Are you going to d❑ it an both days`? PRESTUN: This is my fa�arite questian e�ery year, yes. And s❑ we ha�e the Greening ❑f the Fountain traditianally since 1 g79 I belie�e, when I helie�e it was a bar bet ta then go green the fountain the next day. And so that's an St Patrick's Day. Histari�aliy, ��ery single year we d❑ it at naon. We also ha�e our Irish Fountain Festi�al, which is always the Saturday before St Patrick's Day, and we green it twice an that day as well, at noon and 4 pm the Greening of the Fauntain is the name ❑f'the e�ent araund St Patrick's Day. And again, it's a nan-e�ent. It's we green the fauntain. A lot of people go out there and show up and watch it. There's nothing else to distract them from talking tv yau abaut the history of th� fountain either while they're out there. - 12 - httqs:llatter.ai H15TDRY AND CLILT[]R� AbVISDRY C�MMISSIbN FESRI]ARY 5, 2fl25 VERBATIM MEETING MIN!]TE5 YUDER: And then there's ❑nly one thing that popped intQ my mind, is there something called the Fauntain Hilis Day? PREST�N: That is put on by the Chamber of Commerce. Yes, that is carrect, and that is mo�ed back ta earty Qctober, or late September. YQDER: All right, if there are na further caminents ar questions on t11at, �et's move farward wi#h eStabli5hing workgrou�s Item Number 1 Q, Cansideration and Passible Actian Estahlishing Workgraups. Daes anyl�ody want to suggest a workgroup? I1EP�ER: I belie�e we talked abaut this last time, but ab�iously with public art being put under us now, which is fairIy new, I wauld lo�e an opportunity to g❑ o�er with e�erybody iny thaughts towards what we should do with the art, and kind of haw I would tike ta see aur my group likes ta see the art ga in F�untain Hills, especially in light af all the new thing5 ti�at are going ta be bringing peaple here. And I la�e maybe fi�e minutes next week. I'm not prepared this week to kind of go o�er this, but Y can summari�e it pretty quickly, what I would ha��, what I had inentioned in my leadership class that I would like ta move forward with, with the public art, and I'd lave a few minutes, and then maybe we �ould work �n a group arvund possibly implementing saine af those items, if e�erybody agreed ta it. PREST�N: Dur next agenda itein is public art, sa if yQu want to speak ta a little bit, that's gaing t� be a standing agenda itexn as well, and that's a place where you can speak ab�ut that at any point. LEPflER: Yeah, that's kind ❑f what I was thinking about. YQDER: About this thaugh da yau think we need ta get a workgrQup on this, with TQni mayhe being the head ❑f the workgroup? PRESTON: We can, I guess, what wauld t�e workgraup action be? Right? Yau need ta have something actionable or something you're working �n right now, public art, usually art is brought to us far the most part. It's not something that the Tawn daesn't �ammissian, typically, right? 5o it's mare taking a look at whai's being brought up by de�elopers and using, again, the guidelines. Yau �an see thetn in your packet here today, the DeveIopment Guidelines and Master Plan. Whether those are things you want to ha�e a warkgroup ta laok at #hase Guidelines and Master Plan. I'm nat saying we w�uld. T would ha�e to look into vur ability ta make alteraiions to that. But as long as the workgroup is actionable beyond what already we ha�e a5 that agenda item or that ability, I'm sarry. Y�DER: 7hat's fine. I just said that. Asked that question an Toni's behalf LEPDER: The items that I laoked at were not about bringing new art in hut what we can do ta make our current art inare accessible and infarmatian more accessiUle t� the public. So, these are things that I belie�e could be an actionable item, and I know that I'd worked with Ke�in at ane pc�int, on one ❑f th� ideas, an�i I know he's �ery inuch fvr i� perfect. Did I ha�e an update on - 13 - httt�s:llotter.a� HISTDRY AIVD CULT[1RE A�VIS�RY C�MMISSIDN FEBREJARY 5, 2D25 VERSATIM MEETING MINUTES that in the next agenda item? But if that's definitely a workgr�up. You guys can s�e if y�u want to put toge#her and �ote an and add three memb�rs to it. YUDER: We need ta ask for a mation ta create a warkgraup. Qr, I forget haw that works. PRESTQN: Nope you can create it, and we just need to set the three members. YDDER: I'd be willing to jain Toni if Samebvdy else would also. KLINE: I'd be interested in helping out. YDDER: �kay, sa I think we'�e just established a workgroup, inaybe Toni as the lead an art. PRESTQN: Can you also let me knaw who are the ather two on the workgroup? Y�DER: I'm s�rry that would be Bannie Klein and me. Ti�n Yader. PRESTDN: Thank y�u. YUDER: Qkay, yes, sir. I'm sarry. BURNS: Soinething that has coine up in a couple of pre�iaus meetings is and e�en earlier, here was the 25�th anni�ersary going on next year. And we talked briefly about a couple of options that we might be able t� help with there. Whether it be a dedication with the presidential statues, flr som� ��ent surraunding 3uly 4th. That's kind of long-term at this point. But shvuld we, you know, think abaut getting people together to work Qn it, because that might be something that wvuld take quite a bit af wark? So is that a warkgroup we want to loak at? YUDER: That's something that I think, I mean, it was, it j ust took us two and a half minutes to get this other work group done. Is there anybody interested, besides Bab and me, in working on this? I'Yn not saying I necessarily need to be on it, but I cauld do this 250th anni�ersary pro�ect, a long-term praj ect. Anybody else? Okay, so � think if I'm allowed to, Bob would maybe be the head on that and Susan Qbst-Dworkis and Tim Yoder wauld be interested in participating in a warkgroup for the 25Uth anniversary. Qkay, next up, Public Art. PREST�N: So we don't ha�e anything brought befare us today. As far as anything actionable, I did want ta pravide a quick update internally, Cammunity Services has inet with a group that dQes plac�ues for memorial benches, public art, and pR codes. They house all the informatian an their own landing pages. There's a lot we can do with that, and we're Iooking nght naw whether or not that's an avenue we're going to pursue ta start slowly updating what we have on the public art right now. So that is being looked at just as an update if anybady was thinking abaut that, or far your warkgroup. Eventually, we ha�en't made a final decisian on that. It's still in the dis�ussian stages. VVe ha�e inet with the campany, and we now know what they can do, and we're nvw discussing it internally. YDI3ER: That's great. I saw Tani smiling k�ig. That sounds great, and that's gaing to be helpful. PREST�N: Along with that, I think I can throw it in here, Tim, what the commission came up with the idea of the a�erlays, of the history, of the kind of those sateilite shots within these QR codes and placeinents. VVe are alsa considering putting samething like that, as yau are here, - i4 - https:llotter.ai HISTDRY AND CULTURE ADVISORY CDMMI55I�N FEBRUARY 5, 2fl25 VERBATIM MEETII�� MINUTES here's what it used to look like and then scaling it through sa kind ❑f trying to bring all those ideas together. �DDER: T�at's great. Thanks. Yeah, that was a papular thing in the talk that I gave the ❑ther day. I�ust had a few siides, but it was papular. LEP�ER: I know that ane af �r�y thoughts was, I don't know if the town is taking ��er the public art website, if there's any option to maybe da some updating to that, and e�en 5ame changing of it ta a little more ir�odern style. I def nitely �ad same ideas. If that's a possibility, PREST�N: Abso�utely. Yeah, that's something we're Ioaking at as well and kind of working ❑ut #��e l�gistics of but, yeah, any ideas you have? 1 think that's going ta get that wvrkgraup gaing. YQu guys start discussing. I think that can fall under that pur�iew as well. LEP�ER: Oh, I ha�e ideas. KLINE: AIl right. Sa, I just wanted ta say that all these graups sound so interesting. I'm trying to sit an my �olunteer hand, but I think I would �ike to be on the 250t" Anni�ersary warkgr�up if there's still an apening there. PRESTflN: Somebody would ha�e to caine off due ta the maximum we can ha�e on a workgroup is three befare we hit a quaruin. YQDER: All right, it's �kay. Bannie, I'li came aff because I'm already on the art and I'm dving this ather project, so I'll gladly turn it ❑�er ta you. KLINE: �kay, perfect. PREST�N: Sa, Chair Yader yau going to be coming off. YQDER: That's �arrect. I'in caming off of the �50t" Anni�ersary praject work group. PRESTQN: Qkay? And Commissioner Klein, you're going to be on that instead. YDDER: Bonnie Kline is repZacing me. Very gaad. �kay. Where were we? Was at th� Fu#ure Agenda Items and Presentatians. That's where we are. Does anybody want to speak to this? Peter? GALLAGHER: Is this where I speak about what I tried to speak about earlier? T met with memhers af the River �f Time Museum recently, because I'm a �olunteer, and they had their annual meeting, and there was some discussion amang them about publishing the next book after the one we talked aloout last month. I think t�at was Rising Abo�e the Rest, and I know that Brent Cruikshank ❑wns the rights, and the inuseum awns the boak, s❑ they're working tagether, I belie�e, ta see if they can make that �appen. I'm nat sure what we as an ad�isory �oirunission can do to help that al�ng. PRESTDN: Yeah, great question currently it's out af the town purview, and this being a town cQminission, I don't knvw that there's anything we can add to that. And so as af now, t�at's not samething that we would be able to pursue unless we were acti�ely approached about it and - 15 - httqs:llatter.ai H]STQRY AIVD CULT[]RE ADVISORY CDMMI551�N FEBRUAFtY 5, 2DZ5 VEHgATIM MEETING MINiITES even, it's a bit of a gray area, given that we don't awn any ofthe rights to it. As a town cominission and a nQn-t�wn project, I cion't know if we would take that on. GALLAGHER: �kay. YUDER: All right, � beiie�e that's the last item. PRESTON: Just making sure for Future Agenda Items, ab�iausiy, we'll get thase work groups ongaing on aur future agendas far workgroup updates. Far now, we will probably remo�e the Points af Interest agenda item, I helieve we're settled on that far now, until, �n the tawn side, we can take some action an that. Think e�erything's set an that one. So we'll mast likely remvve that. And then as far as you mentioned, I belie�e Ck�air Yoder about the four sectians, four to six, kind ofaverview for the town focus I knaw right naw on ❑ur econamic de�el�pment is in partnership with the videv series pretty much on that exact �oncept. And I will reach out to see if they ha�e any updates on that to maybe present ar add ta the agenda next month. Y�DER: Thank you. Anather ane just papped into my mind with all the gvlf caurses, recreatian wauld be another defining part ❑f our tawn. �kay, if there's no further business. ah, Susan? UBST-DW[lRKIS: Th� Future Agenda it�ms, it's ab�ut us having a booth at the fair. Are we planning on doing it? PRESTQN: At the inament, I don't see that as a possibility. That'S what I mentianed earlier. I will canfirm that actually, this is aur last chance to get it. No, we won't be able to have a boath at the art fair. YQDER: �kay, if there's no further business, can I get a Motion to Adjourn? DBST-DW�RKIS: I make a Motion that we Adjaurn. GALLACHER: I secand it. Y�DER: All in fa�ar? ALL: Aye. W��DWARD: 6-0 Unanimously YDDER; Thank yau �ery much, e�erybody. - 1 fi - F�ttt�s:llotter.ai HIST�RY AND CULTURE ADVI50RY COMMI55I�N FEBRUARY 5, Za25 VERBATIM MEETING MINUTES Having no further business, Chair Yoder adjaurned the Regular Meeting of the Hist�ry and Culture Ad�isory Commissian on February S, 2[)Z5, at 4:5b p.m. HiSTflRY AND CLTLTURE ADVISURY C�MMISSI�N � - ���� Tim Yode , Chair ATTEST AND PREPARED BY: (, �� �'atti Lopus�ans , Exe ti�e Assistant CERTIFICATIUN I hereby certify that the fQregoing minutes are a true and carrect copy of the �erbatim minutes ofthe History and Culture AdvisQry Commission held in the Town Hall Council Chainbers on February 5, 2(125. I certify that the meeting was duiy called, and a quorum was present. TED this 5th day of March 2D�S �,cJV"V � atti Lopuszans i, E cuti�e Assistant - 17 - httas:llotter.ai