HomeMy WebLinkAbout1990.0315.TCRM.MinutesTOWN Ot? FOUNTAIN HILLS
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR SESSION OF THE FOUNTAIN HILLS TO1HN COUNCIL
NARC H 15, 1990
A public meeting of the Fountain Hills Town Council was convened and called to
order by Mayor John Cutillo at 6:30 p.m., Thursday, March 15, 1990, in the
Fountain Hills School District Administration Building located at 14605 N. Del
Cambre Ave., Fountain Hills, Arizona.
ROLL CALL - Present for roll call were the following members of the Fountain
Hills Town Council: Mayor John Cutillo, Vice Mayor Mike Minarsich and
Councilmembers Harry Barber, Marti Lemieux, Joe Bill, Charlie Fox and Dick
Haugen. Also present were Town Attorney Bill Farrell and Town Clerk Cassie
Hansen.
MOTION made by Councilman Haugen to accept the minutes from March 7th and March
12th. SECONDED by Councilman Bill and CARRIED unanimously.
AGENDA ITEM #3 - ORDINANCE 90-6 APPOINTING THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AS INITIAL
PLANNING AGENCY AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION (attached)
Mr. Farrell explained that the council needed to be the initial planning and
zoning commission because of the timing involved before July 1, 1990. He said
there is a legal requirement to have the zoning ordinance and map in place by
this date and that if a separate body were appointed, it would be physically
impossible to meet all the deadline dates. He also said that once the code and
map were adopted, the council could appoint a citizen board. Councilman Bill
made a MMON to accept Ordinance 90-6 which was SECONDED by Councilwoman
Lemieux. The motion CARRIED unanimously.
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Mayor Cutillo explained that all cities and towns have a list of fees they
charge for copies and publications made by the town. Mr. Farrell said that
public record law requires that copy of public records for non-commercial use
be made available at the current reasonable commercial reproduction costs. He
said that the .15 cents per page is a fairly standard charge. Councilman Bill
made a MOTION to accept the list of fees as stated for the services and
publications for the Town of Fountain Hills. SECONDED by Vice Mayor Minarsich.
Bill Lacey asked why the job couldn't be put out to bid, to reproduce some of
the town's records. Councilman Bill explained that the list of fees refers
primarily to when someone comes into town hall and requests a copy of meeting
minutes, etc. and that would be done on the town's copy machine. Vice Mayor
Minarsich referred to planning and zoning books and said that something like
that might go out to bid because of the size of the publication involved. He
further stated that it has been this council's position and that they have stuck
to this position throughout, that they go to Fountain Hills first and accept
bids on that basis. Mr. Farrell stated that currently, many of the things on
the list do not yet exist in Fountain Hills but when they are passed into
existence, many would require publication and would go out to bid. The motion
CARRIED unanimously.
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AGENDA ITEM #5 - PEYNENTATION & POSSIBLE AiTi'HMIZATION TO HIRE A TV CABLE
CONTRACT CONSULTANT ( attachment )
Dennis Contino, chairman of the Cable Subcommittee reported that the committee
has worked it's way up to developing an ordinance. He said it was very
important to the town because it would dictate what the town does, how it does
it and fees that would be charged. The committee came up with Woodward
Consulting Services, Larry Woodward, out of Phoenix, who has expertise in this
area. He said the committee decided it would be better to hire someone
experienced in this area since the committee members do not have vast knowledge
in this area and that they were looking for someone who could come up with the
proper wording as well as putting some teeth into the ordinance. He asked that
the council make a motion to hire Woodward Consulting Services to help the
subcommittee with the ordinance and referred to the attachment for a task
description and fee structure. He explained that it was a common practice for
a community to charge application fees for licences which could range anywhere
from $1,500 to $7,500. He also said that usually 4 to 6 cable companies make
application to a town and that these fees could cover the cost of the
consultant. As the consultant fee structure reads, it would cost $1,250 to do
the ordinance. Vice Mayor Minarsich noted that the price read not to exceed
$1,250 and asked if that meant the price could be less. Dennis said he doubted
it and that most ordinances are set up anywhere from 35 to 45 sections and are
very technical. He said it would take at least 6 to 7 days to complete.
Councilman Bill asked about the application fees, if it was a fee that we would
be receiving from the companies wanting to do business here. Dennis replied
that any cable company wanting to do business in Fountain Hills would have to
first put in an application along with a non-refundable fee, showing good faith
and that they will not back out. Councilman Haugen asked if we intend to use
the consultant to do other things besides the ordinance. Dennis said it was
a possibility but would be done one step at a time and that if the committee
decided they needed help in some of the other areas, they would come back to
the council and request authorization to expend more funds. Larry Woodward
clarifed the fee schedule by saying he would bill $50.00/hour at the likliness
that there will be more work past the ordinance. Dennis said that ordinances
are not generally adopted from town to town because each town varies as to their
needs and wants of the town. Larry Woodward stated that he is currently working
with Dunsworth of Maricopa County and that he has worked with United Artists
in Scottsdale and limited work to Paradise Valley, Goodyear and Tempe.
Councilman Bill referred to the 6 month outline of consultant services not to
exceed $14,000 and asked if that was all or just part of the picture, if more
funds would have to be expended down the line. Dennis said that at this time
the subcommittee did not know and that they were just taking one step at a time
which now, was the ordinance. Vice Mayor Minarsich asked if it wasn't true that
we would be looking at revenues amounting to about $18,000/year. Dennis said
it depended on how much you put on top of the 3% franchise fee and that right
now the county wasn't collecting anything except for license fees. Vice Mayor
Minarsich made a ?ON to accept the request of the Cable Subcommittee and
authorize them to retain the services of Woodward Consulting referencing item
#2 ordinance, 30 days, not to exceed $1,250. SECONDED by Councilman Barber.
Councilman Haugen asked for Mr. Farrell's input on how other cities and towns
handled the ordinances. Mr. Farrell said he has worked personally with Mr.
Woodward and further that the ordinances for cable TV service has become
extremely technical. He said it is necessary to stay abreast of all legal and
technical updates and that it is common for communities of this size and larger
to use the services of a consultant. Councilman Haugen wanted to know why it
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wasn't possible to look at other communities ordinances and adopt theirs with
minor changes. Larry Woodward said different towns have different priorities
and the ordinance sets the ground rules on what is going to be done. He said
some communities emphasize the revenue enhancement while other communities focus
on the community service potential. The ordinance needs to set the ground rules
and guide the relationship between the cable provider and the town and problems
must be anticipated ahead of time. Mr. Farrell said the ordinance would be
advisory in nature and the council would have the opportunity to fine tune it.
He further said this was a common route for cities and towns to take. Bill
Tesmer said that he, too, is a consultant with technical expertise, could write
ordinances, has written ordinances and would like to bid on the job. Mayor
Cutillo asked Dennis Contino if this had not been cleared up because he thought
he and Dennis had discussed Mr. Tesmer and Dennis was supposed to talk to Mr.
Tesmer. Dennis Contino responded that it was his understanding that Mr. Tesmer
would be used at a later date when his expertise could be used. Mr. Tesmer said
he has not written ordinances and he is more interested in the RFP end.
Bruce Hansen asked the group to keep in mind that labeling cable service as a
profit center is not really accurate because every profit taken out is a tax
on the citizens of Fountain Hills. He said the primary purpose is to supply
every citizen with cable service and better service than they currently have
and that the profit end of it should be kept on the back burner for now. Norman
Lash asked if we weren't going overboard with this and shouldn't satellite
dishes be investigated and made reference to the system used in Rio Verde. He
also asked if we couldn't wait for future technology instead of the tremendous
undertaking of installing cable TV in Fountain Hills with present technology
which will one day soon be outdated. Mayor Cutillo said that Rio Verde was a
privately owned company and they would be able to bid Fountain Hills along with
every one else. He also said we cannot wait for future technology to supply
our citizens with cable. Vice Mayor Minarsich said he could not fathom telling
the citizens of Fountain Hills that they would have to wait for modern
technology to have cable. He said there is a situation where the cable contract
is up in June and we have to renew it and we have to enact an ordinance to do
SO. Mr. Lash said he read where contracts with cable companies would be 15
years and that's a long time to be locked into something. Mayor Cutillo said
the contract does not cost the town anything and that each citizen has the
option of subscribing or not subscribing to the service. Dennis Regeski asked
why the town didn't just have their own system using the cable that is in place.
Mayor Cutillo said it would take a tremendous outlay of money to start our own
cable company and the existing cable doesn't belong to us. Mr. Contino said
the law covers the cable in place for a certain length of time and to use it
before that time is up would take special authorization to do so. Stan West
asked if the committee had found out what the intentions and attitudes were of
Dimension Cable if we A, renewed their contract and B, if we didn't renew their
contract. Mr. Contino stated that little contact had been made with Dimension
because they didn't want to really become involved with them and be obligated
to them again. He also said that much of Dimension's cable is obsolete. Vice
Mayor Minarsich said the discussion was getting into areas not covered in the
agenda item and the motion at hand. The motion CARRIED unanimously.
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Councilman Fox reported that the Law Enforcement Subcommittee was currently
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investigating law enforcement options for the community and that one of these
options was that in the second full fiscal year, the community would continue
contracting with the county for police dispatch and jail but to replace patrol
units, detectives and police chief services with our own. He said they have
located 4 different state and federal agencies that we are eligible to apply
to for funding to do this, one of these being the Governors Office of Highway
Safety. He further explained that the first year, these funds would support
100% of the salaries, training equipment, training rooms, booking cameras, etc.
The second year they will fund 75% and the third year they will fund 50% of
these items. There is no cost to the community to put in for this funding and
it is a non -binding proposal request - we are not required to take the funds.
Councilman Fox made a HDTION to allow the Law Enforcement Committee to proceed
to put forth a proposal for Federal funds for the community. SECONDED by
Councilman Haugen. Mayor Cutillo said he wanted to make sure that everyone
realized that this was for the 1991-92 fiscal year. Donna Bayo asked if the
committee wasn't going to check into 4, 5 and 6 years down the line as long as
they were checking into 2 and 3 years from now. Councilman Fox said they are
checking with other agencies and finding out all the different sources from
which funds are available and that each agency handles the funds differently.
The agencies -are specialized in what they handle and each one expends funds to
different areas of law enforcement and they are checking into all of these.
The motion CARRIED unanimously.
AGENDA ITEM i7 - BILLS TO BE PAID
Vice Mayor Minarsich made a M TION to accept and pay the bills as submitted
(attached) and was SBQONDED by Councilman Bill. The motion CARRIED unanimously.
ACEMA ITEM #8 - PRESIIVTA7'ION BY 70M HIRED ENGINEER ON REPAIRS AND QWM TO
REPAIR THE FQ MER LIBRARY BUILDING AND COMKNITY CENTER
Dave Montgomery reported that the roof on the Community Center had been patched
since the last rain and leakage and that it was hard to identify but that the
maintenance people said the roof had actually split. He said the roof was the
original roof, 10 to 15 years old, and he recommended that the roof be replaced.
He said that depending on the type of roof put on, the cost could be anywhere
from $4,700 to a cheaper 3 ply roof for $3,500 with a few choices in between.
He said there will be continual problems until the roof is replaced.
Mr. Montgomery then reported on the roof of the old library building saying
that it had probably reached it's life expectancy but was still in pretty good
shape. He said it could probably last another year if it had some minor repairs
and maintenance. Some of the tiles are missing and broken and there's an area
where the newer addition meets the original building where the roofing felt is
actually exposed and needs to be covered. He said this minor maintenance would
cost around $500. Councilman Haugen asked if there would be a price break if
both roofs were replaced at the same time. Mr. Montgomery said there would
probably be some break in the price and that the roof on the addition to the
library would not need to be replaced at all. He said to replace the roof on
the old library would then be about $3,000 plus $3,500 to $4,700 for the
Community Center. Councilman Bill asked if the $500 repairs were done on the
library roof, if that would be a delay tactic to replacing the roof. Mr.
Montgomery said it could delay replacing the roof for up to 2 years. He said
a 3 ply roof is good for about 8 to 10 years, the modified pitchim for up to
12 years and the single ply membrane for 12 to 15 years.
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Mr. Montgomery then addressed the structural condition of the old library
building. He said he had done an extensive analysis of the trusses - the web
members have failed and some actually have gaps between them. He said he feels
it is a dangerous situation and that it is a good thing that the area is not
being used by the church. He recommended adding a sheating to the sides of the
trusses and to add 2 X 4's along the existing 2 X 4's and he feels the roof will
be structurally sound. He said 12 trusses have failed and he recommends
repairing all 23 trusses because he is quite certain the others will fail. Mr.
Montgomery quoted approximately $9,800 to repair all 23 trusses, or somewhere
in the area of $9,000 to $11,000 to cover the full scope of work. Vice Mayor
Minarsich asked if the jacking of the trusses would add enough pitch to
eliminate the ponding of water on the roof to avoid future problems. Mr.
Montgomery said it would not eliminate all ponding but would minimize it and
that there could be up to 4" of water and still be O.K. He said that a local
contractor has repaired 5 of the trusses because there are metal truss plates
attached to one side of these trusses but more work is required on them.
Stan West asked who owns the building. Mayor Cutillo replied that the Fountain
Hills Civic Association does but it is going through the process of changing
hands. Mr. West suggested that when the city owns the property, they should
use the revenues to fix the roof. Councilman Haugen responded that it was a
break even situation. Dennis Regeski asked about putting a gable roof on the
building but Mr. Montgomery said it would not be cost effective and would run
about $18,000. He said the trusses were under -designed and the metal plates
are pulling out. He recommends plywood with nails to repair them. Bill Tesmer
asked why the consulting work and the work to be done has not been secured on
a bid basis. Mayor Cutillo said this was not a decision to go out to bid and
that would come later. Erna Charles requested to speak on executive session
and the Mayor said not at this time, she could speak in the call to the public.
Mrs. Charles said that would be too late and Vice Mayor Minarsich said she could
speak on it when they got to agenda item #10.
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Before beginning his report, Stan Connick handed out a packet to the council
and the public (attached) showing a possible floor plan that could be used in
the old library building if it were used for town offices as well as some
supporting data on the project, ie. site plan, parking, etc. Mr. Connick then
walked through the floor plan explaining how the layout would work. He said
the area for the magistrate court would accommodate about 40 people which were
about how many were in attendance at the present council meeting. He said the
objective was to see if the basic people thought to be needed at this time would
fit into the space available and that there were numerous ways to lay out the
basic area. Privacy was a consideration as well as an open area that could
change with the needs of town hall. He then moved onto the site plan and
parking and a diagram showing where the building could eventually be added on
to. He said it may not be in the best interests of the community to expand but
that it was an option to consider. He said based on the list of people given
to him of employees needed, there are 14 people that would need working space
in town hall at the onset. He said the total square footage ended up being
alittle over 2,000 square feet and the gross area of the building is about 3,300
square feet and they have used about 66% of the gross area. He said about 80%
rule of thumb is for a very highly efficient office and that it's not good to
maximize because there is not room for additional files, storage and changes
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in personnel. He said there was just a little breathing room with this plan.
Mr. Connick then went over the construction costs and said they were quickly
put together. The demolition was 2 people at $30.00/hour taking 2 days to do
the work amounting to $440. He said he doubled that amount as a cushion. New
carpet was figured at $1.50/square foot and he said few walls would be needed.
He said he figured a high price on the electrical because lights would have to
be moved and added. Ducting would have to be reworked and cabinets included
in the reception area and the work area. He said he added a contingency that
may not be enough but that most of his figures he figured at the high end. The
figures at this point come up to about $15,000 to $16,000 and then a 10% profit
overhead factor was used for the contractor making the total cost about $17,500.
Adding permits, design fees, electrical and mechanical engineers and architects
the actual cost could escalate to as much as $25,000 or decrease alittle also.
He said that painting was not included in the cost.
Mr. Connick said he went to Gilbert and Surprise. Gilbert supplies extensive
services but their town hall has doubled in size over the last 4 years.
Surprise has more departments than we are planning at the onset. He discussed
both municipal governments, their staffing, size and office space requirements
but they were enough different to make direct comparisons difficult. Mr.
Connick expressed concern in being given this exercise to see if this space was
workable and.if one does use it will one outgrow the space very quickly. He
said he couldn't really answer that but that it was obvious that the town would
outgrow the space especially when more disciplines are consolidated. He did
say he could see where this plan would work for a year and maybe even longer.
Councilmembers then asked different questions regarding square footage, with
and without walls figured in and the sizes of the secretarial cubicles. Mayor
Cutillo asked if the conference room could be used in conjunction with the
magistrate court since the court would be in session only two days a week and
Mr. Connick replied that it could. Mr. Connick explained that 4 people would
occupy the planning work area. Councilman Fox asked about the bathroom
facilities. Mr. Connick replied that the 2 bathrooms were minimal for this
number of people and they were not equipped for handicapped and that would cost
about $500 to convert them. Mr. Connick said there was really no room for
growth and the conference room would have to be used for a jury room at the
other end of the building from the court. He said to add on to the building
could be figured at $65.00/square foot or about $80,000 for adding 1200 square
feet on to the building. Mayor Cutillo pointed out that adding on to the
building was a moot point and the primary concern was to decide if it would fit
our needs now. The council continued to talk about space needs and how the plan
could be juggled. Mayor Cutillo said that one thing that needed to be
considered was the cost factor and that even though we all know we are going
to grow, it will cost about $17,000 to remodel the office which would last us
at least 1 year and maybe even longer. He said we would save $4,000 even if
we had to move. Councilman Fox said he had prepared a report with some
comparison figures (attached) and would go over those with the council, showing
that it was possible to take the same amount of square footage at the present
office location, use the library for a rental and make our present rental space
a cost of only $6,500 net rent for the year. Mayor Cutillo directed the meeting
back to the agenda item of the architect's presentation.
Councilman Haugen asked how the range could be so large between the remodeling
estimates of $17,000 and $25,000 and Mr. Connick explained that the figures were
put together very quickly. He said they looked at other projects that they had
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worked on of similar scope and used those figures to establish a range. He said
that he felt the $17,000 figure was a reasonable figure. Marge Scmoll asked
to clarify that architectural and engineering fees were not included in the
price. Stan West said he thought it should be obvious to the most casual
observer that the plan layed out for town hall is grossly inadequate in so many
respects that it is ludicrous. He said the plan is not workable and questioned
why it was being discussed. After further clarification by Mr. Connick, Mr.
West asked if the architect thought this was a good working plan for our town
hall. Mr. Connick replied that he felt it was minimal. Bruce Hansen agreed
with Mr. West that the plan was not workable. Dennis Regeski asked if MCO would
fix up the offices the town currently occupied and suggested that there would
also be remodeling costs at the current location. Bill Tesmer brought up the
safety of the elected officials, that they would be accessible and vulnerable
to anyone coming into the library building to go to court. He also questioned
the accessibility of the bathrooms to the public and that he feels employees
need space to breathe and do business without being confined in a cubbyhole.
Ray Hollingsworth brought up how many people would be in the building when court
was in session along with the town hall employees and how limited the bathroom
facilities would be. Donna Bayo expressed doubt on obtaining permission from
the architectural committee to push out a wall here and a wall there on the old
library building. Danny Tancredi asked if we were sure if we can even get the
building or if there were legal problems involved. Norman Lash said he was sure
there would be an expense in the MCO building to put it back in it's original
condition once the town vacated the premises. Councilman Fox said MCO had
offered to divide a large room at no cost to the town. Art Costallas said he
felt the plan was a very minimal plan, that offices create volumes of paper and
records which all need room to be stored, that people would be in and out of
the offices creating alot of traffic in the open working areas. He asked if
we were making the wisest choice with the tax dollars by trying to stretch it
out on an office space that did not have very many positive factors to it. Erna
Charles reiterated that the deed restrictions prohibit any government body from
being housed in the building and Mayor Cutillo said the council would be
discussing that in executive session and discussion needed to be kept to the
architect's proposal. Frank Clark agreed that the plan was minimal and asked
if there were any laws in Arizona governing minimal work areas for employees.
Mr. Connick said not to his knowledge but that this plan meets all planning
standards. Councilman Haugen asked what the architectural and engineering fees
would be on the project and Mr. Connick did not know at this time. Dennis
Regeski asked about adding up and Mr. Connick said it was not cost effective.
Mayor Cutillo said the effort here was simply one of saving the town money.
He said that sometimes, in order to do that, you have to put up with alittle
inconvenience and he is willing to do that if it meant the town could save money
to put towards a future civic center. Councilman Fox said there was another
option and that he had figures to show that few savings would be involved.
Irene Leckman asked if MCO had been approached to see how much they would do
to set up additional offices in the present town hall. Bill Lacey said the area
to be used for the court is too small for 40 people and that the whole building
would only handle the basic personnel and the town would have to go out and rent
additional space some place else. Mr. Connick was thanked for his presentation.
AMMA ITEM #10 - VOTE TO OD INTO EXE=VE SESSION
Councilman Fox asked to know why the council was going into executive session
and expressed concern that the open meeting law would be violated. Mr. Farrell
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said it was perfectly acceptable under the state open meeting law to meet in
executive session with your attorney to receive legal advice. Erna Charles
expressed her concern over having the executive session also. She said it would
be fine if they would just go in and get the legal advice but that she resents 14)
the fact that the council can then discuss in there what they should be
discussing in front of the public. She said the public in this instance is more
concerned with this issue than with anything else the council has addressed thus
far and that it would be poor policy to discuss in secret what should be
discussed in front of the public. Councilman Haugen made a MOTION to go into
executive session, SECONDED by Councilman Bill and CARRIED unanimously.
The council went into executive session at approximately 8:28 p.m.
AGENDA ITEM #11 - RE LEN TO REGLK R SESSION
The council reconvened regular session at approximately 8:58 p.m.
AGENDA ITEM #12 - ATI R RIZATION OF -STRUCTURAL AMID ROOF REPAIRS TO THE OLD
LIBRARY AND CX*tf- iITY CENTER
Vice Mayor Minarsich made a MOTION to authorize the structural repairs and roof
leak repairs .to the former library building and the Community Center. SECONDED
by Councilman Barber. Mayor Cutillo asked to AMEND the motion that the council
seek bids to do the work. Vice Mayor Minarsich SECONDED the amended motion.
Councilman Fox said when bids go out the contractors need to receive a statement
of work. He said a decision needed to be made on what kind of roof would be
put on the Community Center as well as which repairs they wanted to have done
on the old library. Councilman Bill asked if these should be addressed as two
separate items and it was decided that as long as it was one agenda item, it
could not be separated. Councilman Haugen asked if this was jumping the gun
since the deed had not been accepted yet. Mayor Cutillo said no work would be
done until the Town Manager returned and sought out bids for the job anyway.
Mr. Farrell said he had resubmitted a draft of the deed agreement and would
expect any day next week to conclude the transaction. Vice Mayor Minarsich
expressed a desire that repairs start as soon as possible since the church was
limited as to how much of the building they were able to use. Mayor Cutillo
said the bid should include all types of roofs and then the council could decide
which route to go. Councilman Bill made a MOTION to withdraw the motion and
amendment and restate it, SECONDED by Councilman Fox and CARRIED unanimously.
Councilman Fox made a MOTION that the bids be put out for the repair on the roof
of the community center based on the engineer's report provided to us on March
15th giving three options for three bids, also bids on the old library to repair
as stated repair damaged roof tiles and corners, etc. as the report so states;
furthermore that the roof trusses be repaired on the old library building per
the engineers submitted report dated March 15th and that none of the repairs
are to commence until the property has been deeded over and accepted by the
Town of Fountain Hills. SECONDED by Vice Mayor Minarsich. Mr. Montgomery said
he would have to finish the second phase of his work in order to make the
drawings for the contractors to bid on and that he had only been instructed by
Mr. McNulty to do the first phase which was the investigation work. The motion
CARRIED unanimously.
AGENDA ITEM #13 - AUPfMIZE REMODELING OF THE FORMER LIBRARY
Councilman Haugen asked to hear from the property committee now that the
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architect had given his report. Councilman Fox referred to the report that the
committee had put together (attached) and reviewed the concerns expressed by
the committee, such as all department heads not being in enclosed offices, no
room for staff growth, no jury room or attorney conference room area, no
planning and zoning blueprint storage, and a conference room space conflict.
He used the figure of 2,700 sq' for office space and said that at $7.55/sq'
which is the rent at the MCO building we would be at $20,385 for annual rent
and if that same 2,700 sq' was rented out at the old library building at a
minimum of $5.00/sq', the rent income would be $13,500 on that building. Using
the rental income to defer the cost of rent at the MCO building, the town would
be paying only $6,885. Mayor Cutillo asked if it wasn't true that if we stayed
at the MCO building we would begin to use 4,000 sq' and Councilman Fox said he
was comparing apples for apples and Vice Mayor Minarsich added that if the cost
of using 4,000 sq' at MCO was going to be figured, they would have to add the
$80,000 figure of the addition to the old library on to the cost of operating
at the old library. Councilman Fox continued going over the figures included
in their committee report comparing costs of remodeling and rent at both
locations. He speculated on the probable expansion that would take place over
the next 2 years and the impact that would have on both locations. Vice Mayor
Minarsich said as chairman of the Property Subcommittee it was their
recommendation not to authorize remodeling of the former library for use as town
offices. Vice Mayor Minarsich said the town has the luxury of month to month
rent at the current location as well as room for growth and expansion as needed.
Councilman Bill requested that a motion be called for to determine whether and
what the motion was before there was further discussion. Mayor Cutillo called
for a motion. There was no motion and the item was dropped.
It was decided that agenda item #14 need not be addressed.
ALMA ITEM #15 - CALL To THE PU13LIC
Dennis Regeski asked if the rent at MCO was negotiable. Mayor Cutillo responded
that they were in no position at that time to say what MCO would or wouldn't
do and the council couldn't really get into a question and answer session. Stan
West made an impassioned plea to the council to do what they could to get
improvements made on the Beeline Highway to avoid more tragic deaths in the
community. Ray Hollingsworth referred to the agenda item which was skipped,
giving the church proper notice to vacate, and asked how long they might expect
to wait before the issue came up again. He said they would like to have an idea
on what they could expect so they can plan for their future also. He gave a
report on the problems at the library and said it was a bad location for the
town, difficult to find. He said the council was an interim council, coming
for election, and what would the Christian community feel if the town
contributed to the community losing a church. He further said that their lease
called for the entire building and being pushed into the back room has caused
the church to lose 20 to 25 people. He also felt their lease should extend
past October since they have not had full use of the building. Bill Tesmer
said present value of money must be examined versus the future value of money
and we must look at long term solutions. He said the library space for offices
is inadequate and not a proper use of money at this time.
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MOTION made by Vice Mayor Minarsich to adjourn the meeting, SEOONDED by
Councilman Bill and CARRIED unanimously. The council adjourned at approximately
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9:32 p.m.
TOWN OF F AIN HILLS
By: C-
Jo M. Cutillo, Mayor
ATTEST:
Cassie B. Hansen, Town Clerk
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and correct copy of the
minutes of the regular meeting of the Town Council of Fountain Hills held on
the 15th day of March, 1990. I further certify that the meeting was duly called
and held and that a quorum was present.
DATED this cQA day of March, 1990.
Cassie B. Hansen, Town Clerk'
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