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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2003.1204.TCRM.Minutes TOWN OF FOUNTAIN HILLS MINUTES OF THE REGULAR SESSION OF THE FOUNTAIN HILLS TOWN COUNCIL DECEMBER 4,2003 Mayor Nichols called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. INVOCATION—The invocation was led by Pastor Joel Bjerkestrand, Shepherd of the Hills Lutheran Church. ROLL CALL — Present for roll call were the following members of the Fountain Hills Town Council: Councilman Archambault, Mayor Nichols, Councilwoman Stevens, Councilman Kavanagh, Vice Mayor Melendez, Councilwoman Nicola, Town Attorney Andrew McGuire, Town Manager Tim Pickering, Accounting Supervisor Julie Ghetti and Town Clerk Bev Bender were also present. Councilwoman Ralphe was ill and excused from the meeting. CALL TO THE PUBLIC Edwin Kehe, a resident of Agate Knoll, addressed the Council and stated concern regarding an article he recently read that said the State Department of Water Resources had indicated that Chaparral City Water Company had exceeded its assured supply of water on an annual basis of 400.39-acre feet. He said that the Town had been requested to stop the approval of any new plats. He noted that 400 acre feet was sufficient to provide water requirements for 1200 homes and stated that eventually this problem would "trickle down" to the homeowners in the community. He requested information on what the Town was doing to compel the Chaparral City water company to correct its deficiencies. Town Manager Tim Pickering reported that staff and developers in the community met today with Chaparral Water Company as they did on a weekly basis. He said that although the situation was a concern, he did not want residents to panic that they would not be able to receive water and assured the citizens that everyone in the kiw community would continue to receive water. He explained that the State Department of Water Resources was concerned about the 100-year supply and where the water would come from in the future. He noted that the Water Company was verifying the numbers to determine their accuracy and another meeting would be held next week with the Department to verify those numbers. In addition, after the numbers were verified, Chaparral would begin an analysis and geological study of the water supply to determine whether what they originally applied for was the water that was there or if there was more. Mr. Pickering advised that the ultimate solution was purchasing Central Arizona Project water and added that in 2008, the Town's water company had been assured it would receive a very large supply of water. He said that in the long run this represented a temporary problem and staff would continue working with the water company and the developers to solve it as soon as possible. CONSENT AGENDA Mayor Nichols read the following consent agenda item: AGENDA ITEM#1—CONSIDERATION OF APPROVING THE MEETING MINUTES OF 11/12/03. Councilwoman Stevens MOVED to approve the Consent Agenda as read and Councilman Archambault SECONDED the motion. A roll call vote was taken with the following results: Councilwoman Nicola Aye Mayor Nichols Aye Councilman Kavanagh Aye Councilwoman Stevens Aye Vice Mayor Melendez Aye Councilwoman Ralphe Absent Councilman Archambault Aye E:\BBender\Documents\Current Minutes 2003\12-04-03.doc Page 1 of 9 The motion CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY by those present(6 to 0). AGENDA ITEM #2 — CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTING THREE CITIZENS TO FILL VACANCIES ON THE COMMUNITY CENTER ADVISORY COMMISSION. Mayor Nichols MOVED and Councilman Archambault SECONDED a motion that Peg Tibbetts, Bill Muelhauser and Jackie Miles be appointed to serve two-year terms on the Community Center Advisory Board. There was no discussion and no citizens wishing to speak. The motion CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY by those present(6 to 0). AGENDA ITEM #3— CONSIDERATION OF THE NEXT STEP IN THE PUBLIC ART MASTER PLAN, SUPPORTED BY THE ARTS COUNCIL, TO ACQUIRE AND PUBLICLY DISPLAY SCULPTURES IN THE DOWTOWN AREA, Mr. Pickering stated that the Town of Fountain Hills was extremely fortunate to have the public participation in the arts area and noted that the Town had not purchased all the sculptures seen around the community; they had been donated. He said that their generosity represented a great gift to the entire community. Mark Mayer, Director of Parks, Recreation and the Community Center, stated that several weeks ago the Council considered and accepted a resolution that accepted a Public Art Master Plan. He said that the Public Arts Committee of the Arts Council put the plan forth. He added that one of the cornerstones of the document was a plan to put together a series of sculptures that would be placed in the downtown area. He referred to a copy of a letter provided to the Council from Jerry Miles, a member of the Arts Council, and said he was present this evening to briefly discuss the program and respond to any questions the Council might have. Mr. Mayer noted that previously they had talked about a resolution that would (1) publicly support the acquisition of art; (2) insure the pieces of art, once accepted, on behalf of the Town; (3) guarantee in the future that the pieces, if damaged, would be repaired under that insurance plan; and (4) pieces of art placed throughout the community would be preserved. Mr. Miles addressed the Council and said that over the last three years, the Public Art Committee brought to the Town 14 pieces of sculpture, which were paid for by private sources. He added that the Library Association donated three more pieces, and private businessmen had contributed a number of other pieces. He explained that the group was proposing a ten-year plan to acquire 40 significant pieces of outdoor sculpture at an average of four a year to be placed from Fountain Park up through Avenue of the Fountains to the Community Center. He stated the opinion that once completed, the Town would have the finest outdoor sculpture collection anywhere in the southwest outside of Los Angeles and Orange County. Mr. Miles commented on the positive benefits of such a program and said that the Town had based its fiscal future on sales tax and when people came to see the largest fountain in the world,they wanted to create a true attraction in the form of a sculpture collection that would bring people in and generate significant sales tax revenues. Discussion ensued relative to Mr. and Mrs. Miles' past art donations and their pledge to the community to donate another two pieces over the next ten years; requests to other civic organizations to follow suit and donated funds and/or pieces of art; the group's intention to ask the Town, during the next budget session, to purchase one piece of art a year; and the benefits of the program to the entire community. Vice Mayor Melendez said that if the Town could meet the standard set by Los Angeles, it would truly benefit Fountain Hills. He referred to a staff report and pointed out that there were three items that discussed costs to the Town. He noted that one item was to insure the cost of the pieces, once accepted, and asked what that cost would be. He added that it also stated the Town would pay the necessary costs, once accepted, of placing the pieces on public property, and would provide ongoing maintenance. He said that the report showed a zero fiscal impact, yet the above listed items would cost money, E:\BBender\Documents\Current Minutes 2003\12-04-03.doc Page 2 of 9 Mr. Pickering responded and said that the insurance cost would be extremely minor because it would fall under the Town's umbrella. He added that the one-time installation costs would depend on the size of the pieces. He explained that Parks and Recreation staff would help unload the pieces and set them on in-place concrete bases. He stated that to date maintenance costs had been virtually nil and discussed difficulties in determining an exact cost ,. since it depended on each piece. Mayor Nichols stated the opinion that the proposal was very worthwhile and beneficial and commented on the two new hotels that would be opening up. He agreed that the sculptures would serve as a "draw" and bring people into the community. He said that earlier in the day, Mr. Miles challenged him and his wife to personally purchase one piece of art for the Town over the next ten years. He said that although he didn't have the opportunity to discuss this with his wife, Sheila, it was his intention to commit a portion of his teaching revenues over the next ten years to purchase one piece of art for the Town of Fountain Hills. Councilwoman Stevens said she was extremely excited and supportive of the proposal. She added that she was not sure that the Council would set aside funds for art due to the difficult financial problems the Town was facing, but said that they were going to pursue revenue enhancements and perhaps in the future they would be able to look at purchasing a piece of artwork. Town Attorney Andrew McGuire stated that by a simple motion the Council could approve the concept and a resolution would come forward on this issue in the future. Councilman Kavanagh MOVED and Vice Mayor Melendez SECONDED a motion to approve the concept to purchase 40 public art pieces over the next ten years as presented by the Arts Council. Councilwoman Nicola echoed the concerns expressed by the Vice Mayor Melendez relative to potential costs and requested that additional information regarding the costs be provided when the actual resolution came forward for approval. The motion CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY by those present(6 to 0). AGENDA ITEM #4 — CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE 03-23, AMENDING THE TOWN OF FOUNTAIN HILLS TAX CODE RELATING TO THE PRIVILEGE LICENSE TAX BY INCREASING THE RATE OF TAXATION ON ADVERTISING FROM ZERO PERCENT (0%) TO TWO AND SIX TENTHS PERCENT (2.6%); PROVIDING PENALTIES FOR THE VIOLATION THEREOF; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; DESIGNATING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING FOR APPLICATION OF TAX TO CERTAIN CONTRACTS. Vice Mayor Melendez said that it was his understanding in talking with the Town Attorney that he could proceed with this item. Vice Mayor Melendez MOVED to continue Agenda Items#4, #5 and#6 to the second Council meeting in January to coincide with some of the budget preparation and discussions that would occur. He stated that the first time the Council was given a detailed review was at the November 12th Work Study Session and added that this evening they were being asked to vote on a major tax package less than a month later. He stated the opinion that there had not been sufficient time for the community and the business sector to provide input. He added that he had met with nine business owners over the last three days and they had requested help. He said they believed the Town would become "Fountain Hills Tax City." He pointed out that the business community was told about this issue only last week and said that information was also printed in news publications today both in Scottsdale and Fountain Hills. Vice Mayor Melendez commented that he had many questions he wanted to pose, such as how could this be monitored so that all forms of the media would be treated the same. He added the opinion that local businesses would be impacted with their advertising purchases. He said that a lot of questions needed to be asked and a lot of answers needed to be provided before they proceeded. He stressed the importance of studying the entire package and said that he was unwilling, particularly at this time of year, to say "Merry Christmas citizens, we've got a great tax package for you." E:\BBender\Documents\Current Minutes 2003\12-04-03.doc Page 3 of 9 Councilman Kavanagh SECONDED the motion. Mayor Nichols requested input from the Councilmembers regarding the motion. Councilman Archambault agreed with the Vice Mayor's comments and said he believed they needed to give the Town's business people the opportunity to review the items. Councilman Kavanagh stated that he had expressed concerns earlier regarding the fact that the taxes were being done "piecemeal" and stressed the importance of looking at the overall picture. He added that he would prefer to have them all reviewed at the same time and requested that the Town Manager pull the revenue enhancements from the agenda of the next meeting as well so that all of the items could be reviewed as an entire package in January. Councilman Kavanagh said he would hope that if the motion passed, three of his colleagues would pull the motion next month since they were going to be looked at all together. Mayor Nichols commented that they should restrict conversation to this motion and not move on to the next meeting. Town Attorney Andrew McGuire stated that staff heard the comment. Councilwoman Nicola said that if the motion passed, she hoped that the tax items were the only issues placed on an agenda of one revenue enhancement meeting to allow sufficient time to discuss the various issues. Councilwoman Stevens commented that she was disappointed since the Council members were the ones who had decided to place the items on the agenda in the first place and questioned why the Council didn't tell the Town Manager if they had changed their minds. She added that the citizens would not be able to speak on this now and there would not even be a staff report and said she would not support the motion. She noted that had she known about the continuance beforehand, she might have accepted moving in that direction. In response to a question from the Mayor, Mr. McGuire stated that the majority of the Council could decide to suspend the rules and vote on all three agenda items (#4,#5 and#6) at the same time. Mr. McGuire added that only comments received from citizens on the subject of the proposed continuance could be heard at this time. Vice Mayor Melendez said that as they moved through the public policy process and met with the business owners, they got a different flavor regarding the urgency of not moving quickly. He added that he was unable to contact all of the Council members and regulations restricted what they could and could not do. Mr. McGuire reiterated that if a majority of the Council supported suspending the rules and voting on all three items at the same time that it would be permissible. There were no citizens present wishing to speak at this time. Mr. McGuire added that if the Council so desired they could open the meeting up for discussion on the propriety of the continuance. Mayor Nichols asked whether anyone wanted to speak on the issue of a continuance and no one came forward. A roll call vote was taken with the following results: Vice Mayor Melendez Aye Councilman Kavanagh Aye Councilwoman Nicola Aye Councilwoman Stevens Nay Councilman Archambault Aye Mayor Nichols Aye Councilwoman Ralphe Absent The motion CARRIED BY MAJORITY VOTE of those present(5 to 1). E:\BBender\Documents\Current Minutes 2003\12-04-03.doc Page 4 of 9 AGENDA ITEM #5 — CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE 03-24, AMENDING THE TOWN OF FOUNTAIN HILLS TAX CODE RELATING TO THE PRIVILEGE LICENSE TAX; REMOVING THE EXEMPTION FROM TAXATION FOR RESIDENTIAL RENTAL PROPERTY; PROVIDING PENALTIES FOR THE VIOLATION THEREOF; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; DESIGNATING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING FOR APPLICATION OF TAX TO CERTAIN CONTRACTS. CONTINUED TO THE SECOND COUNCIL MEETING IN JANUARY 2004. SEE DISCUSSION UNDER AGENDA ITEM#4. AGENDA ITEM #6 — CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE 03-25, AMENDING THE TOWN OF FOUNTAIN HILLS TAX CODE RELATING TO THE PRIVILEGE LICENSE TAX BY REMOVING THE EXEMPTION FROM TAXATION FOR HEALTH CLUBS AND SPAS, PROVIDING PENALTIES FOR THE VIOLATION THEREOF, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; DESIGNATING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING FOR APPLICATION OF TAX TO CERTAIN CONTRACTS. CONTINUED TO THE SECOND COUNCIL MEETING IN JANUARY 2004. SEE DISCUSSION UNDER AGENDA ITEM#4. AGENDA ITEM #7 — DISCUSSION WITH POSSIBLE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO RESEARCH THE TOWN'S AUTHORITY AND OPTIONS RELATIVE TO SINGLE REFUSE SERVICE WITHIN THE TOWN OF FOUNTAIN HILLS. Town Manager Tim Pickering addressed the Council regarding this agenda item and said that last year during the public Town Hall Meeting regarding finances, one of the discussion items asked to be considered was having the Town take over residential refuse collection and have one vendor for all of the residents of Fountain Hills. He commented on the research that was done and said he wanted to present the information at this time. Mr. Pickering said that communities take over trash hauling because of health and sanitation issues. He noted that the Town was not involved in garbage hauling at this time and left it up to the individual residents to contract with the various haulers. He said that there were four or five haulers that the residents chose from ranging in cost from$14.33 up to $17.00 a month. Mr. Pickering discussed the pros of switching to a single hauler and said there were many, including less garbage trucks on the streets, which would cut down on street maintenance and pollution; everyone in certain sections would have their garbage out at the same time, resulting in beautification/aesthetics along the streets; everyone obtained service, eliminating the possibility of burning trash or illegal dumping; and to save money due to economy of scale. Mr. Pickering added that in the Town's situation there were also many cons and risks including the fact that citizens' choice of vendor would be eliminated; and since it would affect every property owner, all issues and concerns would be directed to Town Hall resulting in a need for staff to address the concerns. He said that staff had completed an initial study of this issue comparing the rates paid in Fountain Hills to other rates in other communities and added that if someone went with the lowest costing vendor, they would still be paying below the average of many municipalities in the area. Mr. Pickering requested input from the Council relative to what problem they were trying to solve, aesthetics and continuity or making the enterprise a profit center for the Town. He said it was a difficult scenario to "play out" and explained that most of it was based on his personal experience in managing cities and looking at other communities and what they do. He added that the bottom line was "do cities make money from providing this service?" and responded that some do, such as Mesa and Scottsdale, which charge a higher fee and the profit they make is put into the General Fund. He said that it was basically an "in lieu property tax"and if this was the way the Town wanted to proceed,they needed to let everyone know that was why the Town was taking on the program. Mr. Pickering explained that the downside of it was many communities either just broke even or lost money and the pressure associated with setting the rates higher than what they should be in order to make a profit was often too high for Councils to sustain over a long period of time. He said that Councilman Archambault had done a lot of work on this issue and commended him for his efforts. He agreed with him that if the rate were set at approximately $17.50 a month (included in the analysis prepared by Councilman Archambault) money would be generated for the first few years. He added that he was concerned with the long term and questioned whether the E:\BBender\Documents\Current Minutes 2003\12-04-03.doc Page 5 of 9 Town would be able to continue charging the higher rate and letting citizens know their rate was higher than what it was costing the Town so monies could be generated for public safety,parks, and other items in the General Fund. Mr. Pickering also commented on problems associated with street maintenance and said that the maintenance costs the Town $91,000 a year. He stated that staff wholeheartedly supported some mechanism to recapture that amount. He said that staff had met with Waste Management in an effort to determine whether a profit could be made and the initial thought was to charge a franchise fee, similar to the one charged to Cox Cable. He added that the charge could be $2.00 to $3.00 per person for a total of $300,000 a year. He explained that unfortunately, according to Arizona State laws, garbage haulers couldn't be charged a franchise fee since they were not considered to be public utilities. He added that the only charge that could be assessed was a business license fee and up to $5,000 per hauler could be charged each of the seven independent haulers,resulting in the recovery of$35,000. Mr. Pickering emphasized that although some municipalities do make a profit, it was necessary to have very qualified, expert employees running this type of operation as a business. He noted that Mesa had their own system and trucks and made a good profit, but they also had 130 employees who managed that operation. He said that if the Council decided to take on this service, staff would be needed. He publicly wished Councilman Archambault a happy birthday. Councilman Kavanagh discussed the fact that if the Town assumed this role, additional employees would be needed and said that right now there were four different haulers doing the work and no employees were needed to monitor and supervise them. Mr. Pickering explained that staff would be needed for billing purposes, probably more than the two he previously mentioned. He added that the amount of calls that the Town received would drastically increase because when trash was not picked up, citizens would not call the hauler, they would call the Town Hall and this would increase the need for added staff as well. He said that staff time would also be needed to put the bids together and oversee the process and added that an additional volume of work for employees would definitely result. Councilman Archambault commended Mr. Pickering on his presentation and said that he had put together a power , point presentation (a copy of the presentation, in its entirety, is on file in the Clerk's office)that he hoped would be helpful. He said that a year ago they were asked to diversify their revenue sources and that was one of the reasons why they were discussing this issue tonight. He stated the opinion that this was a great way to generate revenue and added that the proposed revenue source allowed the Town to "earn" its income by providing a service for its "dollars," which would only require a little effort. He said that they could add to the quality of life for residents by helping to free up current general funds that were being used to supplement road repairs. He added that the funds could be used for youth sports, community services, revival of the Parks & Recreation programs and other quality of life issues that make the Town desirable. Councilman Archambault continued his presentation and discussed the fact that Article 10 of the Town Code requires the Town to inspect at least one quarter of the containers in the Town and to date he has been unable to locate any such records and has been told that this was never done; Maricopa County Environmental Services Department requires that two pickups occur each week and the Town was not assuring the residents that this was happening; the fact that this was also stated in Title 10 Chapter 1-5 of the Town Code; Title 49, #741 and#746 of the Arizona Revised Statutes gives the Town the authority to control refuse service for the Town and, in fact, the Town was required to provide for the health, safety and welfare of its citizens, which was why the Town incorporated; refuse service could add stability to the constant price wars being waged and subsidized with the Town's streets; he questioned what would happen to the fees if the Town added the increased license fees and what would happen when the little haulers who were keeping the fees down left because they could not afford the license increase; and he stated that the Town would be left with possibly two haulers and only $10,000 to mitigate the damage being enacted to the streets. Councilman Archambault reported that the Town was looking at a shortfall of $8 million by 2009 to do all the maintenance and repairs on the roads, and if in fact 29% of the road damage was being caused by refuse trucks,that equated to$2,320,000 in estimated repairs between now and 2009. Councilman Archambault expressed the opinion that his proposal would diminish road damage and control noise and pollution (air, noise and liquid) and explained that at forces exacted 2000 times that of a car, they were E:\BBender\Documents\Current Minutes 2003\12-04-03.doc Page 6 of 9 currently subjecting Town roads to horrendous forces each day and causing premature wear. He added that prices would be more realistic and stabilized over a five-year period with adjustments tied to inflation. He said that a false sense of affordability would be avoided and if several haulers were to pull out of Town, a cry from residents to provide relief from the skyrocketing cost of refuse would be demanded. He noted that State Statutes and Town Codes would become the weapon of choice. Councilman Archambault advised that recycling would actually happen and fear that refuse companies wouldn't take recycling goods to the proper sites would be calmed by proof of receipts from those places. He added that in the news article about Tempe's rate hike, a comment was made that they would be paving 165 miles of alleys in four years. He questioned the cost per mile and added that Tempe was making a profit. He also talked about the City of Scottsdale's Financial Statement which showed $16,226,231 in revenue from refuse service and noted that $13,069,471 would be used to pay landfill costs, employee cost and bond payments, leaving $3,256,760 of which $1,993,595 would transfer out and $1,163,165 would be reserved resulting in a profit of$3,156,760. Councilman Archambault pointed out that Jerry Bacchus was in the audience and said that he was instrumental in providing information and back-up data. Vice Mayor Melendez said that he had been working with Councilman Archambault on and off for the past year and said that there were two things that intrigued him: (1) what a shame it was that Fountain Hills did not have recycling and (2) the possibility of developing a profit base as a result of utilizing a single hauler. He said he supported both items and they had a lot of merit. Councilman Archambault pointed out that Goodyear just began contracting with Allied and what they did was contract with them to pick up the refuse and take care of the landfill so all Goodyear was doing was adding their cost to maintain that program. He said that the $17.30 a month would be a true cost of refuse while the City of Chandler, which has charged $11.90 since 1993, has decided to subsidize the additional revenues that they got from the fund and pass it on to the residents. He added that Chandler was about to raise their fees to what would be considered a normal rate. He said that if the Council wanted to go forward, he wanted to provide them with a resolution that would give them a basis to look at. He referred to Section 8 of the resolution and noted that he put in there that it would take a 3/4 vote of the Council to change the rate after the initial price was set. He stressed the importance of how the program was set up because once initiated, he did not believe it should be changed. Councilman Kavanagh also thanked Councilman Archambault and the Vice Mayor Melendez for their work and said that he was initially skeptical of taking over and said he still felt that way because the figures provided definite proof that no changes should be made and the Town should not assume this responsibility. He commented on the decrease in service and the increase in cost that this would cause and said that he would be hesitant to charge haulers a$5,000 license fee and the negative results that might occur. Councilwoman Stevens agreed with Councilman Kavanagh's comments and said she was unaware of the price war that was going on in Fountain Hills. In response to a question from Councilwoman Stevens, Mr. Pickering advised that Waste Management's rates were based community by community because it depended on the number of customers they had to serve and whether they had a contract. He explained that the company did not have the entire contract in Fountain Hills, which made the job more difficult. He added that rates were negotiated and each community was different. Mayor Nichols also thanked Councilman Archambault for all of his work on this issue and said that Accounting Supervisor Julie Ghetti spoke with ten different cities/towns and of those, six were currently losing money in the refuse business and that was not a good sign. He added that two were breaking even and two were making money. He said he needed more time to look at the numbers supplied by Scottsdale before moving forward. He commented that the reason Mesa was making a profit was they added a couple of dollars to each homeowners' trash pickup fee as an indirect tax and they used the money to provide for other services. He stated that he would not support going any further at this point in time. Councilwoman Nicola expressed her appreciation to Councilman Archambault and staff for their efforts and expressed concerns she had heard from residents of Fountain Hills relative to the fact that the cost of living in the E:\BBender\Documents\Current Minutes 2003\12-04-03.doc Page 7 of 9 Town was already too high. She said that people were asking for relief because they were experiencing financial difficulties. She advised that a group of seniors combined their trash and took it to a local receptacle because they could not afford trash pickup. She added that illegal dumping was already a problem and she did not believe that it was the right time to change things. %Ai) Mayor Nichols said that at the current time, trash pickup was not mandatory but if they went ahead with the proposal it would be mandatory and include everyone. He added that they would be taking away citizens' rights and choice of supplier. He also discussed seasonal residents and the starting/stopping of service and stated that this would result in administrative costs. He stated the opinion that monitoring the process would be difficult. Councilwoman Stevens thanked Councilman Archambault for his work and expressed the opinion that someone should be checking on the trash receptacles and perhaps the Code Enforcement staff could do so. Mayor Nichols suggested that volunteers from the Mayor's Youth Council could be used for this purpose. The Vice Mayor Melendez agreed with Councilwoman Stevens and said why have an ordinance on the books and not enforce it. He urged the Town Manager to look into this matter. Councilman Archambault explained that the reason this was on the agenda was to determine whether the Council wanted to go further with the issue. Mayor Nichols advised that he needed additional time to review the data that was provided. Councilwoman Stevens commented on the fact that most residents were not aware of the fact that the Council was even evaluating this issue and said that word should go out so that input could be received. Councilman Archambault suggested that they move forward with additional discussion so that citizen input could be obtained. Discussion ensued relative to the fact that if the Council didn't move on this issue this evening, that would be the end of it, it won't come back up for discussion. Mr. Pickering agreed and said staff would not do any more research in that case. Councilman Kavanagh stated the opinion that this was a good thing to look into but the figures were glaringly negative towards proceeding. Mayor Nichols noted that if the Council voted not to do this, if someone who voted against it wanted to change their position, the issue could be brought up again. Mr. Pickering confirmed that the issue could be placed on an agenda to discuss again. Mr. McGuire commented that if they were talking about a motion to reconsider, someone who voted in the negative would have to bring it up at the next meeting. He added that the issue did not necessarily need a motion and it could come back again and be placed on an agenda. AGENDA ITEM #8 - COUNCIL ASSESSMENT AND REVIEW OF THE MEETING TO IDENTIFY PROCEDURAL STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES AND DISCUSS POSSIBLE IMPROVEMENTS FOR FUTURE MEETINGS. There was no discussion relative to this agenda item. AGENDA ITEM #9 — COUNCIL DISCUSSION/DIRECTION TO THE TOWN MANAGER. ITEMS LISTED BELOW ARE RELATED ONLY TO THE PROPRIETY OF (i) PLACING SUCH ITEMS ON A FUTURE AGENDA FOR ACTION OR (ii) OR DIRECTING STAFF TO CONDUCT FURTHER RESEARCH AND REPORT BAVK TO THE COUNCIL: NONE. VIP There was no discussion relative to this agenda item. AGENDA ITEM#10—SUMMARY OF COUNCIL REQUESTS BY TOWN MANAGER E:\BBender\Documents\Current Minutes 2003\12-04-03.doc Page 8 of 9 Mr. Pickering stated that the art resolution would be placed on a future agenda and staff would further research costs related to insurance and maintenance. He added that on January 15, 2004, all of the revenue enhancements would be brought back for discussion. He said that staff would also check on the recycling monitoring through Code Enforcement. Councilwoman Nicola commented on the Art Master Plan and discussion this evening relative to the fact that the Town was going to be asked during the next budget session to put aside funds to purchase one piece of art per year, which would generate public comments. She questioned when an opinion would come forward regarding this matter and whether it would be before the Council approved the resolution. Mr. Pickering stated that discussions would take place during budget time and added that the resolution was simply to state from the Town's standpoint that it accepted the art, would place it in public right-of-way and would insure and retain it. Vice Mayor Melendez wished the Trojans success in the national championships. AGENDA ITEM#11 —ADJOURNMENT Councilwoman Stevens MOVED that the Council adjourn.afid'Councilwoman Nicola SECONDED the motion, which CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. The meeting adjourned at 7:50 p.m. TOWN OFF N HIL�,S Y Wally Nichols,Mayor ATTEST AND PEPARED BY: evelyn J. Be er,, own Clerk - v CERTIFICATION I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and correct copy of the minutes of the Regular Session held by the Town Council of Fountain Hills on the 4th day of December 2003. I further certify that the meeting was duly called and that a quorum was present. DATED this 18th day of December 2003. /),(..te-6e ,Z71 Bevelyn J. Wender, Town Clerk L E:\BBender\Documents\Current Minutes 2003\1104-03.doc Page 9 of 9