HomeMy WebLinkAbout2008.0918.TCREM.Minutes TOWN OF FOUNTAIN HILLS
MINUTES OF EXECUTIVE AND REGULAR SESSIONS OF THE
FOUNTAIN HILLS TOWN COUNCIL
SEPTEMBER 18,2008
• C AL TO ORDER—Mayor Schlum called the meeting to order at 5:03 p.m.
AGENDA ITEM #1 - ROLL CALL AND VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION:
PURSUANT TO §38-431.03(A)(4), FOR DISCUSSION OR CONSULTATION WITH THE
ATTORNEYS OF THE PUBLIC BODY IN ORDER TO CONSIDER ITS POSITION AND
INSTRUCT ITS ATTORNEYS REGARDING THE PUBLIC BODY'S POSITION
REGARDING CONTRACTS THAT ARE THE SUBJECT OF NEGOTIATIONS, IN
PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION OR IN SETTLEMENT DISCUSSIONS
CONDUCTED IN ORDER TO AVOID OR RESOLVE LITIGATION (SPECIFICALLY, (I)
AN UPDATE REGARDING ALL PENDING LITIGATION MATTERS, AND (II) A POSSIBLE
DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT).
Councilmember Keith McMahan MOVED to convene the Executive Session and Councilmember Ginny
Dickey SECONDED the motion, which CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY by a majority vote of those present (6-
0).
Mayor Schlum adjourned the Executive Session at 6:25 p.m.
ITEM#2-RETURN TO REGULAR SESSION
(ow • CALL TO ORDER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Mayor Jay Schlum
Mayor Schlum called the meeting to order at 6:35 p.m.
• INVOCATION—Leann Gratz, representing the Church of the Ascension
• ROLL CALL — Present for roll call were the following members of the Fountain Hills Town Council:
Mayor Jay Schlum, Councilmember Contino, Vice Mayor Leger, Councilmember McMahan,
Councilmember Hansen, and Councilmember Dickey. Town Manager Rick Davis, Town Attorney
Andrew McGuire and Town Clerk Bev Bender were also present.
Councilmember Archambault was excused from the meeting.
• MAYOR'S REPORT—None
Mayor Schlum announced that Item # 15 was removed from the agenda at the request of SPAC Chair
Mike Tyler and will be placed on the agenda for the first meeting in October.
• SCHEDULED°PUBLIC APPEARANCES/PRESENTATIONS
(i) Presentation by Sharon Morgan, President of the Fountain Hills Sister Cities organization and
participating Fountain Hills students, regarding their activities during the June 2008, Dierdorf, Germany
student exchange trip.
Sharon Morgan introduced Ms. Lynn Trube and students who expressed their gratitude to the Council for the
opportunity to share their experiences in Germany. Through photos, the Fountain Hills' students introduced
their host families and many highlights of their trip. Sharon Morgan closed the presentation by expressing the
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importance of the students having the opportunity to partake of a global experience and she thanked the Town
for their help.
CALL TO THE PUBLIC
Vincent Marsello questioned as to whether the Council believed the playground equipment was safe for kids. He
pointed out conditions at the park in his opinion that had elements of danger and suggested some solutions. He
urged the Council to revisit their decision, admit they had made a mistake, and fund the upgrades to make the
park equipment and surrounding area safer.
CONSENT AGENDA
AGENDA ITEM #1 - CONSIDERATION OF APPROVING THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING
MINUTES FROM AUGUST 25,2008 AND SEPTEMBER 4,2008.
AGENDA ITEM #2 - CONSIDERATION OF APPROVING RESOLUTION 2008-34, ABANDONING
WHATEVER RIGHT, TITLE, OR INTEREST THE TOWN HAS IN CERTAIN PUBLIC UTILITY
AND DRAINAGE EASEMENTS LOCATED AT THE NORTHERLY PROPERTY LINE OF PLAT
431, BLOCK 7, LOT 2 (17518 E. HAWLEY DRIVE) AS RECORDED IN BOOK 395, PAGE 41,
RECORDS OF MARICOPA COUNTY,ARIZONA. EA08-08(HONJO)
EDITOR'S NOTE: Resolution 2008-34, which was approved by the Town of Fountain Hills Town
Council at the September 18, 2008, Town Council meeting, regarding the easement abandonment for
the property located at 17518 E. Hawley Drive, was erroneously labeled with a number assigned to
another resolution. Therefore, the resolution regarding the easement abandonment for the property
located at 17518 E. Hawley Drive will, upon approval of these minutes by the Town Council, be
renumbered as Resolution 2008-35 and thereafter known as Resolution 2008-35 in the permanent
records of the Town.
AGENDA ITEM #3 - CONSIDERATION OF APPROVING THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE
HIKING LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN MCO PROPERTIES L.P. AND THE TOWN OF
FOUNTAIN HILLS.
Councilmember Keith McMahan MOVED to approve the Consent Agenda as listed (items 1 - 3) and
Councilmember Ginny Dickey SECONDED the motion.
A roll call was taken with the following results:
Vice Mayor Leger Aye
Councilmember Dickey Aye
Mayor Schlum Aye
Councilmember Hansen Aye
Councilmember Contino Aye
Councilmember McMahan Aye
Councilmember Archambault Absent
The motion CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY by a majority vote of those present(6-0).
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REGULAR AGENDA
AGENDA ITEM #4 - CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTING FOUR (4) CITIZENS TO SERVE ON
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WITH EACH SERVING A 2 YEAR TERM,
BEGINNING OCTOBER 1,2008,AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30,2010.
Mayor Schlum MOVED to appoint Dennis Brown, Jerry Caldwell, Paul McDonald, and Sherry Leckrone to the
Planning and Zoning Commission. Councilmember Dickey SECONDED the motion. The motion CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY by a majority vote of those present(6-0).
AGENDA ITEM #5 - CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTING ONE (1) CITIZEN TO SERVE ON THE
MUNICIPAL PROPERTY CORPORATION BOARD FOR A 3 YEAR TERM, BEGINNING
OCTOBER 1,2008,AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30,2011.
Mayor Schlum MOVED to appoint Roger Riggert and Councilmember McMahan SECONDED the motion.
The motion CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY by a majority vote of those present(6-0).
AGENDA ITEM #6 - INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION BY THE FOUNTAIN HILLS TOWN
SQUARE, LLC, REGARDING A 459,603 SQUARE FOOT MIXED-USE TOWN CENTER
DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL
Mr. Dave Fackler presented an overview of their proposed plan for the downtown project. He reported they had
finished negotiations with the Town and were hoping for approval of the development agreement. He listed the
parties involved including the architects, the development firm, the investment company, the planners, the
engineers and the contractor. He also described the overall mixed-use plan including the square footage
dedicated to restaurant and retail, a multiplex theatre, office space, a condominium development, and shared
parking.
Mr. Fackler stated they hoped to begin construction no later than the 1st quarter of 2009 with closing on the
property to take place in October 2008. He stated that Phase 1 included three buildings at Avenue of Fountains
and Verde River Drive with 863 parking spaces.
Vice Mayor Leger asked Mr. Fackler to address the question of the size and scope of the project and, in
particular, the number of movie screens in the plan (10-12 theaters). Mr. Fackler responded that Fountain Hills
and East Scottsdale were underserved as related to theatres with market studies showing that within a 6 mile
service area,there were 130,000 households in easy driving distance to Fountain Hills.
Councilmember Dickey "I wanted to express appreciation noting that you said that your desire would be to stay
within the parameters of the zoning and I know you'll find a lot of reasonable people up here if something
comes up if it's a shading sort of a deal or whatever. But, I really appreciate that you mentioned that. An also
just to say that since this has been spoken about for quite awhile and in a lot of different iterations just to kind of
emphasize that we all look at this with fresh eyes and know that this is something new and separate from before
so we don't start having any kind of mix up on what is was before and know that we are moving forward."
Mayor Schlum clarified that the layout had not changed greatly,just some of the players involved. He requested
that Mr.Fackler review the timeline of the project.
Mr. Fackler replied that they were currently under design and hoped to close on the financing and the land as
early as October 15th, no later than November 15th. The concept plan package would be submitted to the
Planning and Zoning Commission on November 3rd for their review, which would then put it before the Council
in early December. He commented that as soon as the concept plan was approved, they would submit
construction drawings for the building department's approval with hard construction beginning the first quarter
of 2009.
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In response to Mayor Schlum's question regarding the opening of the theatres, Mr. Fackler responded they
hoped to open December 2009.
AGENDA ITEM #7 - CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL EVENT APPLICATION FOR THE
FANTASTIC FALL FESTIVAL SPONSORED BY THE TOWN OF FOUNTAIN HILLS TO BE HELD
AT FOUR PEAKS PARK, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 31, 2008 FROM 6:00 P.M.—9:00
P.M.
AGENDA ITEM #8 - CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL EVENT APPLICATION FOR THE
FOUNTAIN HILLS HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETIC CLUB HOMECOMING PARADE SPONSORED BY
THE FOUNTAIN HILLS HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETIC BOOSTER CLUB TO BE HELD ON THE
AVENUE OF THE FOUNTAINS,WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 2,2008,FROM 6:00 P.M.
TO 7:00 P.M. AND WILL REQUIRE CLOSURE OF THE AVENUE OF THE FOUNTAINS FROM
SAGUARO BOULEVARD TO LA MONTANA DRIVE FROM 5:30 P.M.TO 7:30 P.M.
Kathy Worrell, Parks and Recreation Coordinator, spoke to both Agenda Item #7 and Agenda Item # 8: Ms.
Worrell provided details on the Homecoming Parade recognizing students and parents who were present to
support the parade. Ms. Worrell advised of the need to close Avenue of the Fountains from La Montana to
Saguaro for this event and encouraged businesses to remain open and support the parade. She pointed out that
by scheduling this event, the Town was responding to one of the Strategic Plan's goals of integrating the town
and school more closely.
Ms. Worrell presented information on the Fantastic Fall Festival, which would not have any traffic restrictions.
Ms. Worrell recognized sponsors, concessioners, and reported that the Boys and Girls Club would
simultaneously be offering an event for teens She commented on the fact that this event also met the Strategic
Plan priority to strengthen our small town identity. She noted this event would take place at Four Peaks Park on
‘100 Friday, October 31, 2008 from 5:00 pm to 9:00 pm.
Councilmember Hansen asked Ms. Worrell if she had received any positive response from the businesses on the
Avenue. Ms. Worrell indicated there had been enthusiasm received from the merchants and also reported that
art students from the school would be painting the windows of some of the businesses.
Councilmember McMahan MOVED to approve the Special Event application for the Fall Festival and
Councilmember Dickey SECONDED the motion. The motion CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY by a majority of
those present(6-0).
Councilmember Hansen MOVED to approve the Special Event application for Fountain Hills High School
Athletic Club Homecoming Parade. Councilmember McMahan SECONDED the motion. There were no
citizens wishing to speak on this item. The motion CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY by a majority vote of those
present(6-0).
AGENDA ITEM#9 - DISCUSSION WITH POSSIBLE DIRECTION TO STAFF WITH REGARD TO
CHANGING THE DATE OF THE OCTOBER 2,2008 TOWN COUNCIL MEETING TO OCTOBER 1,
2008, DUE TO THE DATE AND TIMING OF THE FOUNTAIN HILLS HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETIC
CLUB HOMECOMING PARADE.
Mayor Schlum MOVED to move the date of the next Council meeting from October 2, 2008, to October 1,
2008, so that the Town Council could participate in the Homecoming Parade and Councilmember Keith
McMahan SECONDED the motion. The motion CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY by a majority vote of those
present(6-0).
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AGENDA ITEM #10 - CONSIDERATION OF TWO CONSTRUCTION SERVICE AGREEMENTS
WITH CARUME CONTRACTING, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $41,660.27, AND PERFORMANCE
PAVING & SEALING IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,889.93, FOR THE FOUNTAIN HILLS DESERT
vie BOTANICAL GARDEN PARKING IMPROVEMENTS.
Parks and Recreation Director Mark Mayer provided background information on the Botanical Garden
improvements. He referred to a group of citizens who had come forward a couple of years ago to express an
interest in resurrecting the Garden and to develop the site more fully, noting that many volunteer hours had been
devoted to building a trail system and identifying the various species in the garden. Mr. Mayer presented
several parking options that had been considered but for a variety reasons did not work out. In the end a need
was established to provide off-street parking for public safety that would be on Town property as the proposed
site was between the cross streets of Emerald and Kingstree on Fountain Hills Boulevard. He explained that to
currently access the Garden, citizens would have to park on one of the cross streets and walk across Fountain
Hills Boulevard; poor sight lines coming over the hill with vehicle speeds of 45 mph prohibited safe parking and
exiting of the area. If the project was approved, it would include a de-acceleration lane, which would eventually
be included in the cost that would normally be borne into the project for the widening of Fountain Hills
Boulevard. He indicated that costs incurred now would save money down the road.
Mr. Mayer explained that the funds had been carried forward from last year's budget in the amount of$15,000
and combined with new funds this year, which brought the total budget to $68,000. He pointed out that the
requested amount for the agreements was lower than the budgeted amount. Although there would be additional
costs, these contracts were the major portion of the project. He indicated that at this point the project was 23%
below budget.
Councilmember McMahan asked about the current status of the park. Mr. Mayer responded that all trail work
had been completed and the concrete work for installing the identification tags was finished and he estimated
that the Garden was 95% completed. The access trail had been improved but the difficulty was the parking
situation. He stated that it was not legal to park along Fountain Hills Boulevard and dangerous to do so.
Councilmember McMahan recalled who spearheaded the project when the garden was first constructed and had
noticed it had fallen into disuse for years,but he also recognized it was coming back.
Mayor Schlum indicated that the was looking for a motion to approve the Construction Service Agreements with
Carume Contracting Incorporated in the amount of$20,701.61 for excavation of the parking lot site at Fountain
Hills Desert Botanical Garden and off-site paving for a de-acceleration lane in the amount of $20,958.66 and
performance paving and Sealing in the amount of$10,889.93 for on-site paving of the parking lot at Fountain
Hills Desert Botanical Garden. Councilmember Ginny Dickey MOVED to approve the contract as stated and
Vice Mayor Leger SECONDED the motion.
Councilmember Hansen asked Mr. Mayer to explain the purpose of the wide paved area along the side of the
road. Mr. Mayer stated that portion was designed to handle water flow from the hillside. He noted that because
of the heavy flow, the area was beginning to erode and this project would help alleviate that problem.
Mayor Schlum asked if there was anyone present from the Botanical group. Carrie LaPenta, Chairperson of the
Botanical Garden group, addressed the Council and reported they were 99% done with improvements and that
placement of identification signs still needed to be done. Their group was hoping to have the garden open to the
public in January.
Mayor Schlum asked Ms. LaPenta to explain more about the location and what made it unique. Ms. LaPenta
said the Garden was about a 11/4 mile trail through natural undisturbed desert and they had made a trail
accessible. The Garden would be self-guided facility that could be used for educational or recreational
purposes.
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Mayor Schlum thanked Ms. LaPenta and all the volunteers for their hard work and dedication. He reiterated
part of this proposed project improvement would include the de-acceleration lane for the widening of Fountain
Hills Boulevard in that area. Mayor Schlum asked if there were any members of the public who wanted to
lible speak to this item and Town Clerk Bev Bender responded that no speaker cards had been submitted.
Councilmember Contino asked Public Works Director Tom Ward to explain if the parking project was improved
with the de-acceleration lane, would it have to be replaced again when the road was expanded to four lanes. Mr.
Ward explained the area in question would not have to be removed. The center lanes of Fountain Hills
Boulevard would have to be torn up but the new asphalt would not be replaced.
Councilmember Contino asked what would happen to the two acres MCO had in the area and did this plans
interfere with this project. Mr. Mayor responded the project was designed for this particular site and if MCO
developed their property, this project would enhance theirs by creating a de-acceleration lane that would be of
benefit to them. Councilmember Contino questioned the possibility of a Fire Station in this area that would
share space with the Botanical Garden and if that scenario would result in the area having to be torn down.
Mayor Schlum interjected that the Fire Department had indicated preference for placement on Shea Boulevard
and said that he did not believe that the Fountain Hills Boulevard location was being seriously considered any
further.
Councilmember McMahan stated that future construction by MCO would not be impeded whether it was a fire
station or another building. Mr. Mayer reiterated how the project would enhance any future plans by MCO. He
also reported they had met with neighbors in the area and that due to the presence of the Botanical group,
several homeless people, who had been using the area, were forced to leave.
Councilmember Hansen said that she was struggling with this issue. She acknowledged that it was a great
project, that it was wonderful that it was coming back, and that many people had worked so hard, but that the
$52,000 expenditure was hard to justify right now. She had been told that a year or so ago a local contractor had
been asked for a price to grade the property to provide temporary access and asked if there was a possibility to
phase in the project. Mr. Mayer responded that the $15,000 originally requested was to do excavation work and
the quotes now for the excavation portion were $20,000. The difficulty was the dust control measures and the
need to put down a surface that would not create dust and drainage concerns.
Councilmember Dickey stated that the Strategic Plan spoke to the desire for open space, small town
attractiveness and promotion of tourism. The most important aspect of this was all of the time that the
volunteers had engaged in the project and the history associated with it. She indicated her support for the
project.
Councilmember Hansen clarified the amount she had been told was between $5000 and $6000 and perhaps it
was lower due to donations. Mayor Schlum inquired about the need for ongoing maintenance. Mr. Mayer
reported that the group was committed to the ongoing maintenance of the facility and staff would only monitor
the site and step in for any issue beyond the scope of the group.
Councilmember Contino asked about the need for rest rooms at the Garden. Mr. Mayer said discussions had
taken place as to the need for rest rooms and that ultimately it was decided that visitors would not spend that
much time in the area and that access to public facilities were close. Councilmember Contino commented on his
struggle with this decision and indicated that he would like to table the decision for more discussion.
Vice Mayor Leger said he was cognizant of the economy and the budget; that he recognized his colleagues'
concerns with spending money and pointed out that ; the current budget had been reduced significantly with
projects coming in under budget; we could not stop spending in panic because of a downturn in the economy;
the Town needed to remain frugal and to continue to look at projects that enhanced the beauty of the Town and
that added to the quality of life, costs were lower now than they would be in the future; and from a safety issue,
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this project was important. He noted that the Council had recently passed a dust control ordinance and that the
Town needed to provide safe parking for this facility.
Mayor Schlum said he was very sensitive to the costs associated with this project and the challenges of just
grading the area. He recognized the impact the volunteers had on this project and expressed his support. He
pointed out that temporary steps also had associated costs.
A roll call was taken with the following results:
Councilmember Hansen Nay
Vice Mayor Leger Aye
Councilmember Dickey Aye
Councilmember McMahan Nay
Councilmember Contino Nay
Mayor Schlum Aye
The motion FAILED(3-3) due to the tie vote.
Discussion ensued as to whether there could now be a motion to table for further discussion. Attorney McGuire
responded that it could come back at a later date, but the time for a motion to table had already passed with the
motion to disapprove and that the item would have to come back under different circumstances.
Councilmember Dickey asked for clarification that if something changed on the proposal, could it then be
brought back or could this same proposal be brought back. Mr. McGuire replied if it was the exact same thing,
it would have to be brought up at the next meeting; if it had changed, it was considered a new item and could
come back at a different time. He stated that the item was not dead forever. He reiterated that the exact same
proposal under a motion to reconsider at the next meeting was the only way the precise same item could come
back and to reconsider this item at the next meeting it would have to be someone on the winning side, which in
this case were the no votes.
AGENDA ITEM #11 - DISCUSSION WITH POSSIBLE DIRECTION TO STAFF REGARDING
ADOPTING REGULATIONS AND FEES FOR OFF-TRACK BETTING IN FOUNTAIN HILLS.
(BRUNO'S SPORTS BAR AT 16737 E.PARKVIEW AVENUE,FOUNTAIN HILLS,AZ)
Finance Director Julie Ghetti presented the results of her research from other cities that permit off-track betting
(OTB). That summary included fees, revenues, state regulations and crime activity. She made suggestions as to
what the Town might want to consider including regulating license status, zoning compliance, approved permit
verification, number of betting windows and proof of operator agreements.
The Mayor inquired if there was anyone present who wished to speak on this matter. The Clerk stated that Mr.
Jack Mullen,Turf Paradise, was present to answer questions.
Vice Mayor Leger asked Town Attorney Andrew McGuire to explain what the statutes were with regard to off-
track betting. Mr. McGuire explained there was not much law on off-track betting. There was one small section
of law in Title 5 that referenced off-site betting. In this case, this would be a site that was not previously
regulated, locations not previously licensed were required to have approval from the city or town, and there
were no standards by which to approve. He stated that most other communities that had voted to approve off-
track betting had formed a set of local regulations.
Vice Mayor Leger expressed concern that the agenda language. He felt that the Council was being asked to
adopt regulations and fees and that would be "putting the cart before the horse". He stated the opinion that the
Liw. decision that needed to be made first was to whether or not to bring off-track betting to Fountain Hills before
approving regulations.
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Councilmember Dickey stated her preference for the inclusion of possible regulations as part of the process as
that would assist her in making her decision. She expressed that she would have difficulty making a decision
Lir, until those were made available.
Vice Mayor Leger suggested tabling the discussion as he did not agree with the agenda language. He felt the
discussion should start with determining if the Council wanted off-track betting in Fountain Hills. If yes or no,
then we should continue the process of discussion and getting input from experts with the second step as
regulations. There was no point in asking staff to do hours of research if we were not ultimately going in the
direction of off-track betting in Fountain Hills. He reiterated his opinion that there needed to be a motion on the
table for approval to bring off-track betting to Fountain Hills.
Mr. McGuire said he was not comfortable with a blanket approval and suggested that a better idea would be to
move to authorize the beginning of the process, to say yes to bringing off-track betting to the Town subject to
staff bringing back acceptable regulations and upon adoption of those regulations allowing off-track betting in
certain locations.
Councilmember Contino referred to the inter-office memo from the Finance Director Ghetti that stated during
the August 7, 2008. Council meeting staff was asked to prepare an agenda item for the discussion and possible
action to consider a request to permit off-track betting within the Town; because of that memo Mr. Contino he
believed they already had a discussion on this.
Councilmember Hansen pointed out that this item had been originally a subject brought forward under the
agenda item used by one councilmember to see if there was support for placement on a future agenda for action.
Vice Mayor Leger believed the memo clarified his point about permitting off-track betting and that this was the
starting point. Mr. Leger MOVED to approve permitting off-track betting in Fountain Hills.
cor Mayor Schlum asked Mr. McGuire to repeat his suggestion as to what a motion could be along the lines of what
Vice Mayor Leger was stating.
Mr. McGuire expressed concern regarding a motion that permitted off-track betting without anything more and
how it could open the door to off-track betting without local regulations. He proposed the motion should direct
staff to bring back policies and regulations by which any off-track betting facility would be permitted in addition
as to the question of the "if' and the"how"both of which should be part of the motion.
Mr. Jack Mullen addressed the Council pointing out that the Arizona Department of Racing and the Racing
Commission were the overseers and regulators of off-track betting. He further stated towns could not change
operations; that OTB was the most regulated industry in the State; and it was the State that had made the rule
that required approval of the local government. He explained the requirements and compliance processes
required by the state.
Councilmember Hansen clarified the regulations being discussed did not refer to those of the State but how a
permitted property would interface with the Town.
Mr. McGuire stated land-use and Town licensing regulations as well as para-mutual wagering regulations
should be reviewed. Staff had researched and recommended following the best practices of other communities
to adopt local regulations similar to other Towns. He stated that it would be negligent on staff's part not to
recommend doing that and to suggest the Council approve licensing without any regulations.
Councilmember Dickey inquired as to whether a second was needed for the motion on the table. Mayor Schlum
L., confirmed that there no second had been made to motion on the table. Vice Mayor Leger WITHDREW the
motion based on counsel from the Town Attorney. Mr. Leger deferred to Mr. McGuire as to what motion would
precede the other.
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Councilmember Dickey MOVED to consider off-track betting with regulation and discussion as presented by
staff at a future meeting. Mr.McGuire said the motion brought forward was broad enough.
Vice Mayor Leger clarified that he did not want to be under the assumption that if they were moving forward to
develop a policy that the assumption was they had approved off-track betting. Councilmember Contino asked
for clarification as to whether they were giving the requestor a permit.
Councilmember Dickey RESTATED the motion, which was to consider off-track betting with regulation and
discussion as presented by staff at a future meeting if approved by a majority of the Council.
Mayor Schlum asked Mr. McGuire if that would replace agenda item#11 or would there be further discussion
on that item if that motion passed. Mr. McGuire clarified that in the packet submitted by the applicant there
were 4 pages from the Tempe City Code that the Tempe City Council had adopted. He stated that by the motion
stated staff would be directed to come back with similar regulations that could be adopted into the Fountain
Hills' Town Code that would allow a facility to apply for a permit.
Mayor Schlum asked if the motion did carry, would it mean they would move towards a policy and
implementation; and would a failure vote indicate an interest in not having off-track betting in Fountain Hills.
Mr. McGuire confirmed that would be the direction staff would take from it.
Councilmember Hansen SECONDED the motion.
Vice Mayor Leger questioned that if the motion passed, would the Council inherently have approved off-track
betting. Mr. McGuire responded the motion would mean staff would come back with the "how" so Council
could decide the"if' and "how" at the same time.
Councilmember Hansen pointed out that since 44 other cities had these policies in place, we would not have to
reinvent the wheel.
Councilmember Contino asked how much time would be involved as he was concerned with inconveniencing
the business. Mayor Schlum responded that what was on the agenda was not an approval of policy but a
discussion with possible direction to staff.
Mr.McGuire reminded the Council that if adopted, an ordinance did not become effective until 30 days after the
ordinance was passed. If the ordinance was approved, and with the business owner knowing when it became
effective,they could move forward with the State application process.
Councilmember Dickey stated that if the issue was forced right now it may not pass. She indicated that she
needed more information to make her decision. Councilmember Contino said it was not a matter of forcing but
trying to determine a time frame to get these regulations done.
Mayor Schlum pointed out that staff had provided the Council with examples of regulations from other cities so
some information was already available.
Councilmember McMahan stated that he was a strong proponent of off-track betting but he was willing to
support Councilmember Dickey's motion to allow for more time.
Councilmember Dickey RESTATED the motion at the request of Vice Mayor Leger, which was to move that
the Council consider off-track betting with regulations and discussion as presented by staff at a future meeting if
approved by the majority of the Council.
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A roll call was taken with the following results:
‘1°'
Mayor Schlum Nay
Vice Mayor Leger Nay
Councilmember Contino Aye
Councilmember McMahan Aye
Councilmember Dickey Aye
Councilmember Hansen Aye
Councilmember Archambault Absent
There were no citizens wishing to speak on this item
The motion CARRIED by a majority vote of those present(4-2).
AGENDA ITEM #12 - CONSIDERATION OF A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT
BETWEEN THE TOWN OF FOUNTAIN HILLS AND ALBERT HOLLER AND ASSOCIATES FOR A
3-YEAR PERIOD BEGINNING JULY 1, 2008, FOR SALES TAX AUDITING SERVICES IN THE
AMOUNT OF$42,000 PER YEAR.
Finance Director Julie Ghetti addressed the Council and reported that in September 2007 the Town had received
a Revenue Enhancement Analysis Report from T. L. Hocking and Associates that was a result of the initial
findings of the Strategic Plan. One of the recommendations of the report had been to consider hiring an in-
house sales tax auditor to complement the work of the external auditing firm. She explained that the Town's
sales tax per capita rate was lower than comparable cities with a possible reason for the lower rate that the Town
was not collecting all sales tax dollars that were due. However, other more significant factors were that the
Town did not have a large commercial tax base. Therefore, staff had not included the addition of a full time
sales tax auditor in the fiscal year 08-00 budget. She explained that staff was asked to analyze sales tax
lay collections from residential rentals to determine if registered properties were collecting and reporting the rental
tax. She acknowledged that with over 794 properties listed as rentals, this type of auditing was very labor
intensive and without sufficient evidence that property owners might not be paying the rental tax it was difficult
to justify the addition of a full time staff person. Therefore, staff was recommending the contract with the sales
tax auditor be renewed and amended to include residential rentals.Ms. Ghetti stated that Mr. Holler was familiar
with the contractors who were most likely to report incorrect tax amounts or not pay at all. She reported that
since 1991 the Town had paid Mr. Holler's firm $254,000 but in return the Town had recovered over $1.2
million in unpaid sales taxes.
Mayor Schlum asked if there were members of the public who wished to address this item. Town Clerk Bender
responded that one speaker card had been submitted by Vincent Marsello.
Mr. Vincent Marsello addressed the Council stating a large amount of sales tax that did not come back to the
Town had to do with the fairs. He suggested the vendor's credit card number be verified against what was
declared with the State to track lost tax revenues for collection.
Councilmember Dickey MOVED to approve the contract with Albert Holler and Associations in the amount of
$42,000 for sales tax auditing and Vice Mayor Leger SECONDED the motion.
Councilmember Contino expressed his concerns that hiring a tax auditor was a ploy to come in and audit the
books of Town businesses. He was looking for clarification on where they were going with this.
Mayor Schlum asked Ms. Ghetti to explain what the scope of work was on the $30,000 contract with the
Lifunderstanding that the additional $18,000 was to expand the scope of work for rentals. Ms. Ghetti explained the
auditor was hired to primarily audit construction contractors and that they did not typically audit retail unless
there was a complaint. There was no intention to change anything in the contract except to review the
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residential rentals. Regarding artists at the fair, Ms. Ghetti clarified that staff worked with the Chamber and
they were able to make sure artists were paying sales tax. She stated that every artist at the fair must provide the
L. Town with a sales tax number and the Chamber was very good at obtaining that information and proving it to
the Town.
Mayor Schlum asked if the Town had received many complaints about Mr. Holler being invasive in his work
practices since 1997. Ms. Ghetti responded that most of the tax dollars came from the contractors and the few
retail businesses who had been contacted did not realize they had been making a mistake had rectified it right
away;there was no focus on the auditor going door-to-door.
Councilmember McMahan asked to add four caveats to the motion: that there be no unreasonable harassment of
retailers and local business professional people; that a new effort be directed toward out of Town businesses in
collecting sales taxes; that we do a new thorough study and direct attention to the rental properties in Town to
make sure rental owners were paying their fair share. Vice Mayor Leger asked Councilmember McMahan for a
definition of harassment. Mr. McMahan defined harassment as being over zealousness and bearing down on a
person. Mr. Leger said it was extremely subjective to try and define harassment. Mayor Schlum asked Ms.
Ghetti if the scope of work addressed the auditor's approach to the business community.
Ms. Ghetti said the auditor had been doing a great job. She stated the idea was to educate them as the casual
renter might not realize a rental tax was due and we would educate and inform them about the tax. As far as
harassing, Ms. Ghetti said in the 18 years she had worked with Mr. Holler she had not had one complaint from a
business. There was not one case where he had gone into a business unwarranted just to look at their books.
His primary focus was on contractors since that was where the big dollars were.
Mayor Schlum acknowledged local contractors for their help through the building department to monitor those
businesses driving trucks into the community to be proactive in collecting their tax monies. He asked Mr.
McGuire for clarification on the Councilmember McMahan's proposed amendment language. He pointed out
that a first and a second on the main motion existed and asked if this was that an amendment to the motion.
Mr. McGuire responded that if Councilmember McMahan's language was in the form of an amendment, they
should get a second to decide if those items should be put on the motion. Councilmember Hansen interjected
that one of Mr. McMahan's requested amendments had been newly added to the scope of work (third item) and
was already included in the proposed contract.
Councilmember McMahan stated that he trusted Julie and the staff and he WITHDREW his motion.
Councilmember Contino expressed the position that the auditor had access to the taxes being paid and he should
not bother those businesses that were paying their taxes.
The motion CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY by a majority vote of those present(6-0).
AGENDA ITEM # 13 - CONSIDERATION OF AN OPEN PURCHASE ORDER TO UNION
DISTRIBUTING IN THE AMOUNT OF $116,813 FOR BULK FUEL PURCHASES OF UNLEADED
AND DIESEL FUEL THROUGH THE ARIZONA STATE CONTRACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2008-09.
Julie Ghetti reviewed the current processes for obtaining fuel for Town vehicles stating that monthly reports
were generated that broke down the fuel consumption by vehicle. The Town purchased fuel from Union
Distributing paying the same per gallon cost as available under state contract. Ms. Ghetti provided information
to the Council that showed a drop in fuel consumption in the past year due to the purchase of hybrid vehicles.
In response to a question from Mayor Schlum, Ms. Ghetti confirmed that these costs were not fixed and would
cur fluctuate with the market.
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Councilmember Contino MOVED to approve the Purchase Order for Union Distributing in the amount of
$116,813 and Councilmember Dickey SECONDED the motion. The motion CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY by
cor, a majority vote of those present(6-0).
AGENDA ITEM #14 - CONSIDERATION OF A PROJECT AGREEMENT WITH MARICOPA
COUNTY ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS (MAG) TO REIMBURSE THE TOWN OF
FOUNTAIN HILLS UP TO $288,228 FOR ENGINEERING FEES TO DESIGN THE SHEA
BOULEVARD CLIMBING LANE PROJECT DURING FISCAL YEAR 2008-09.
Public Works Director Tom Ward explained that the Town had been awarded a Surface Transportation Program
Grant(MAG) to add a westbound climbing lane on Shea Boulevard. The grant was for 70% of the total amount
($396,753.80). The amount granted was 73%, which allowed for a contingency during the design process.
Councilmember McMahan MOVED to approve the project agreement with MAG for the reimbursement grant
in the amount up to $288,228 and Councilmember Contino SECONDED the motion. The motion CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY by a majority of those present(6-0).
AGENDA ITEM #15 - CONSIDERATION OF ALLOCATING A SUM OF UP TO $20,000 FOR USE
BY THE STRATEGIC PLANNING ADVISOR COMMISSION (SPAC) TO TAKE THE NECESSARY
STEPS TO UPDATE THE TOWN OF FOUNTAIN HILLS' STRATEGIC PLAN WITH POSSIBLE
DIRECTION BY COUNCIL TO SPAC REGARDING THE STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE PROCESS.
NOTE: Mayor Schlum had announced at the beginning of the meeting that Item # 15 would be placed on the
agenda for the first meeting in October.
AGENDA ITEM#16 - COUNCIL DISCUSSION/DIRECTION TO THE TOWN MANAGER
Items listed below are related only to propriety of (i) placing such items on a future agenda for action or (ii)
directing staff to conduct further research and report back to the Council:
A. None
In response to Vice Mayor's suggestion to take another look at Golden Eagle Park based on tonight's citizen
input, Town Manager Rick Davis said staff would visit the park, inspect for any potential hazards, and report
back to Council or provide a memo on their findings.
AGENDA ITEM #17 - SUMMARY OF COUNCIL REOUESTS AND REPORT ON RECENT
ACTIVITIES BY THE TOWN MANAGER
Town Manager Rick Davis indicated he would like to bring someone in from Valley Metro to make a
presentation to the Council at the October 1st meeting to discuss the status of transit in our area. He stated that
he would be participating in a long range transit plan meeting in Phoenix the next day and discussed the
possibility of the Town acquiring two transit vans to supplement local transit activities, particularly to service
the handicapped, disadvantaged, and elderly.
Mr. Davis reminded Council of the October 3rd half-day retreat at the Community Center to kick off the budget
and reported that the Environmental/Sustainability Committee continued to meet regarding environment
initiatives,to reduce the carbon footprint, and to care for current resources.
Mayor Schlum thanked Mr. Davis for facilitating the meeting with the Fountain Hills School District. Mayor
Schlum reported on his attendance at the Constitution Commemoration Service Celebration in Phoenix. He
Ls" stated that he was proud to report that there were more students from Fountain Hills being recognized for their
Constitution work than those in other districts. The first place award winner was Peter Andrelli from Fountain
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Hills High School. He encouraged staff to continue to work with the School District to leverage more resources
to make the most of what we have.
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AGENDA ITEM#18 - ADJOURNMENT
Councilmember Contino MOVED that the Council adjourn and Councilmember McMahan SECONDED the
motion, which CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY by a majority vote of those present(6-0). The meeting adjourned
at 8:59 p.m.
TOWN OF FOUNTAIN HILLS
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By
Afir . ScAIF m, Mayor
ATTEST AND
PREPARED BY:
Bevelyn J. nd own Clerk
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and correct copy of the minutes of the Executive and
Regular Session held by the Town Council of Fountain Hills in Town Hall on the 18th day of September, 2008. I
further certify that the meeting was duly called and that a quorum was present.
DATED this 1st day of October, 2008
Bevelyn . Ben r,Town Clerk
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