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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
MCDOWELL MOUNTAIN PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MAY 229 2018
AGENDA ITEM #1: CALL TO ORDER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
A public meeting of the McDowell Mountain Preservation Commission was convened and called to order
by Vice -Chair Tom Barberic at 4:59 p.m., Tuesday, May 22, 2018 in the Council Chambers at Town Hall,
located at 16705 East Avenue of the Fountains, Fountain Hills, Arizona.
AGENDA ITEM #2: ROLL CALL
Present at roll call were Vice -Chair Tom Barberic, Commissioners Tom Aiello, Bill Craig, Stan Ruden,
Klaus Schadle and Ken Thornton. Absent at roll call was Chair Bill Myers. Staff members present were
Community Services Advisory Director Rachael Goodwin and Executive Assistant Jennifer Lyons.
AGENDA ITEM #3: CALL TO THE PUBLIC
No one from the public wished to speak.
AGENDA ITEM #4: _ CONSIDERATION OF APPROVING THE MARCH 28, 2018 AND APRIL
18, 2018 MEETING MINUTES
Commissioner Schadle made a motion to accept the minutes of the March 28, 2018 and April 18, 2018
meetings, Commissioner Ruden seconded and the motion passed by unanimous vote.
AGENDA ITEM #5: UPDATE ON THE 2018 MMPC OBJECTIVES
There were no reported updates.
AGENDA ITEM #6: UPDATE ON THE LOWER SONORAN TRAIL SIGNS
Town GIS Technician/CAD Operator Ken Valverde is making progress and needs some questions
finalized by Director Goodwin and Parks Supervisor Snipes. The signs are indicated in this year's budget
cycle so there is somewhat of a deadline to get them done. We expect to receive the signs over the
summer, but whether we want to install them over the summer or wait until fall is a different question and
it also depends on access.
AGENDA ITEM #7: UPDATE ON THE UPDATED MAP STATUS
Director Goodwin advised that the maps are being updated in conjunction with the signs.
AGENDA ITEM #8: UPDATE ON TRAIL COUNTERS
Commissioner Ruden reported that two of the counters are working and two are not. He also handed out
a report of the trail counts and it is attached to the minutes. The estimates listed on the report are guesses
and should be able to be updated in the future when we have a full year of data. It is impressive that in
March the reading was almost at 10,000 and a year ago it was at 8,150 on the Lake Overlook Trail, but in
February we had less than a year ago.
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AGENDA ITEM #9: UPDATE ON THE NEXT TRAILHEAD VISIT BY COUNCIL AND
OTHERS
There has not been a date identified by Council and others for a Trailhead visit. We are at a point in
construction where there is a lot going on, but perhaps we could put together something in early to mid
June before Council goes on break. The Commission confirmed they would still be interested in a
making a visit if it could not be coordinated with Council.
AGENDA ITEM #10: UPDATE ON THE SONORAN CONSERVANCY
• They are currently working on getting armbands for the Trailhead stewards and possibly ones that
we can use for the hiking stewards.
• The hiking schedule for next year is also being worked on.
• The video that Paul Garvey put together will be shared to with Council.
• 31 volunteers helped with trail building this year for a total of approximately 515 hours of
voluntary service.
• Commissioner Craig hosted a potluck for everyone at his house.
• Board member Bill Schmidt is working on an education program that we would like to set up once
we get the Trailhead up there. He is meeting tomorrow with a teacher from the high school to see
if we can make some coordination program between the Conservancy and the high school or the
middle school.
• The Diamonte Del Lago area by the "Lake Overlook Trail", their representative from the board
got in touch with Commissioner Craig and he informed her that we were more towards having an
opening to the "Lake Overlook Trail" over at the end of El Pueblo. They were against that
because they would have to do a lot of work, so right now the ball is back in their court.
AGENDA ITEM #11: DISCUSSION ON OR CODES AND SIGNS
The existing codes do not operate but we do have our website which is the landing place for where we
want them to go. We cannot reprogram the existing codes so we would need to develop a new code. The
question came up as to if a QR code is the right thing to use or if there is better technology. If we want to
continue with the QR technology then we will want to replace the sticker that is on there. Director
Goodwin will get with Ken Valverde about adding this to his "to do" list.
AGENDA ITEM #12: DISCUSSION ON THE MMPC 2018-2019 BUDGET
Since the property tax did not pass, there will be a re-examination of the budget. The first of the
discussions begins tomorrow at the staff level. Council will have to adopt the budget in June before the
fiscal year that starts July 1. Council has the proposed budget and it is a priority to have the Trailhead
completed and to fund the temporary restrooms in that location until we get the permanent ones.
AGENDA ITEM #13: UPDATE ON THE ADERO CANYON TRAILHEAD CONSTRUCTION
PROJECT
Director Goodwin addressed the article in the "Times" last week. Bob Burns from the "Times" did a site
visit with our Public Works Director and as they were talking the topic came up as to what would happen
when this roadway goes under construction. We are still working through as to if there would be access to
the Trailhead because there is still a lot of questions and not a whole lot of answers. It would depend on
timing and what is going on. In the agreement there are some provisions made that when the roadway is
under construction that Toll Brothers will provide a pedestrian or bicycle trail for access. The question
right now is timeline and we don't have an answer right now.
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Director Goodwin responded to the Commissioner's questions:
• The contractor has submitted their first set of plans and they have been reviewed and they have
gone back to the contractor. As many of you know and have been in this business before that there
may be many sets that go back and forth, but hopefully no more than two to three sets at the most.
It is our understanding that Toll Brothers is motivated to get this done because the main road
(Eagle Ridge) is the supplier to the other home sites and they have to get that done to reach into the
new locations. What is most concerning for this group is how it will affect our dedication if the
roadway is torn up during our expected timeline. We would have to come up with a "Plan B".
After speaking with The Town Manager and letting him know where we are at in the planning
stages he would like to join us for the next planning meeting to chime in on some of the details.
He would like us to hopefully have the dedication while our current Town Council is still seated
because a number of our current members are not returning or running again. A new Council will
be initiated in December.
• As for controlling to when access can be provided. After the next set of plans comes in and we get
a better feel of when everyone is ready to move forward, Director Goodwin and the Public Works
Director would like to meet with the engineers for Toll Brothers to discuss what it is we actually
need and how we can do something that is viable. The Town cannot require access.
• Utilities: Once the road is started the utilities would be in sooner than we thought, but that is
contingent on them getting it all in and inspected.
• Hiking schedule for next year: Carol is anxious to get the schedule in this (fall) edition of "The
Loop" and that is what is driving some of the deadlines. The deadline for that is in late July and
we mostly likely won't have any answers by that point in terms of dates, times and accessibility.
Our suggestion is potentially putting in the hikes with a starting point to be determined (TBD),
trails are hopefully to originate from the Adero Canyon Trailhead but please check our website the
week of the hike to confirm. This is a tentative plan and is subject to change, please be aware.
• Trailhead completion: The actual construction level is still projected to be finished in late summer
or early fall.
• Construction status: The restroom building is in progress right now and the walls are up. We had
quite a bit of discussion about the drinking fountain and the roofing material out there. The beams
are in place for the ramada and we discussed the roofing that as well. Curbing and gutter is being
poured in the next week or two on pretty much the entire site. Conduit was laid for the electrical
access. We had some things held up, but those have been rectified. There was an issue with the
concrete on the restroom floor and that had to be removed and re -poured. We have had some
issues with details where they are not reading the plans at the detail level. For instance the conduit
went in and it was three quarter inch and it needed to be an inch. The drinking fountain was
designed to be recessed into the wall and the wall depth is not there enough to completely recess it
so it has to be modified to be semi -recessed. It is not necessarily a big deal but it slows up things
because we need to figure out how to fix it. The gate has been at the discussion level in trying to
figure if we have the proper gate up there because we know we don't have power to know the gate
is secure and if it is accessible by fire (Fire Department) if they had to get through it for some
reason. The steel is on order for the gate. They are behind on delivery of a lot of the steel
elements. The gabion baskets are all in and they are getting ready to pour the wall and the seats for
the top caps of them. They are getting ready to build the gabion frontage for the front of the
restroom building.
• Irrigation and planting: There are three options that we are pricing out. One of them is to set up
an irrigation drip system that operates off of a tank that remains on site and we make arrangements
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to have the tank filled. It would use the existing system that is there. Secondly we have what our
Public Works Director calls a "water buffalo" which is a tow behind water tank that we can utilize
through staff and/or hook that up and use as our watering system but it would take more trips up
there. Lastly we are looking at a dry drip or dry well system. It is essentially a submerged gel -like
container that gets submerged around the plantings and absorbs into the ground naturally over the
course of three weeks to a month. Then they get pulled and replaced. It stays there and moderates
itself. The flood district uses them and some of the newer builds in Scottsdale uses them. The
contractor is liable for them for the first 90 days from when we (the Town) accept the project.
Exit from the Trailhead to the trails: There has been some discussion on where that will start but
there hasn't been much progress.
AGENDA ITEM #14: CONSIDERATION OF ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Craig made a motion to adjourn at 5:38 p.m., Commissioner Schadle seconded and the
motion passed by unanimous vote.
Reviewed by:
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Tom Barberic, Vice -Chair
Rachael Goodwiiylkrector of Community Services
Prepared by:
Jennife Lyons, cutive sistant
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and correct copy of the minutes of the McDowell
Mountain Preservation Commission Meeting held on May 22, 2018. I further certify that the meeting as
duly called and that a quorum was present.
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By:
Jennif r Lyons, cutive sistant
Dated this 30th day of May 2018
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