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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
OF THE FOUNTAIN HILLS TOWN COUNCIL
OCTOBER 19, 2021
1. CALL TO ORDER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE — Mayor Dickey
Mayor Diickey called the Regular Meeting of October 19, 2021, to order at 5:32 p.m. and
led the Town Council and audience in the Pledge of Allegiance.
2. MOMENT OF SILENCE
A Moment of Silence was held.
3. ROLL CALL—Mayor Dickey
Present: Mayor Ginny Dickey; Councilmember Mike Scharnow; Councilmember Gerry
Friedel; Councilmember Sharron Grzybowski
Absent: Vice Mayor Alan Magazine; Councilmember Peggy McMahon; Councilmember
David Spelich
Staff Town Manager Grady E. Miller; Town Attorney Aaron D. Arnson; Town Clerk
Present: Elizabeth A. Klein
4. REPORTS BY MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS AND TOWN MANAGER
Town Manager Grady Miller said that the Mayor will be reading a proclamation in a few
minutes, but he wanted to say how proud he is to work for Fountain Hills. He said that
their employees do a great job of providing services to the residents, and part of the
reason for the proclamation is to recognize the employees. He said that on Thursday
Town employees will receive a boxed lunch as a thank you for their service.
Councilmember Grzybowski said that they had subcommittee interviews for
boards/commissions, and she encouraged residents to keep an eye on the Town's
website. She said that it was a great opportunity for them to be involved in the community.
She said that they held a Make a Difference Day committee meeting and participants can
start picking up their t-shirts tomorrow between 8 AM and 4 PM at the Community Center.
She reported that the Bioliphic Committee met yesterday and they had given a
presentation to the Community Services Advisory Commission in September. They are
looking for volunteers and sponsors. Early next year they will present to the Town Council.
Mayor Dickey said that in the past the Make a Difference Day activities would begin with a
gathering at Golden Eagle Park, but due to COVID, they will be going straight to the work
sites. She did a short video, with the help of Paul and Kim, on the program.
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Mayor Dickey reported that last week they held a joint meeting with the Fountain Hills
Sanitary District Board and talked about salt and other improvements at the lake, the well,
washes, etc.
She said that Tom Belshe, Executive Director of the League, had invited mayors and
councils to the open house at the Mesa LDS Temple.
She said that the League did a webinar on redistricting, and she has shared the link and
draft maps with the Council. She said that they are asking for input from the public.
A. PROCLAMATION: Declaring October 17- 23, 2021, as Arizona Cities & Towns Week.
Mayor Dickey read a proclamation proclaiming October 17-23, 2021, as Arizona Cities
and Towns Week.
5. SCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCES/PRESENTATIONS
A. PRESENTATION: Monthly Report by Captain Kratzer of the Maricopa County Sheriffs
Office.
Captain Kratzer of the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office gave a monthly update, noting
that with ten months'worth of statistics since the Safety Corridors went into effect, they
have had a total of 2,345 traffic stops. Of those, 49% have occurred on Saguaro and
Palisades. He said that with added enforcement and requests of deputies to be visible, he
is satisfied with those efforts. He said that of the 49%, 70% were on Saguaro and 30%
were on Palisades.
He said that at one time they talked about having zero tolerance, but he had concerns with
that taking away the authority of the deputies. People are warned before they get a ticket.
That percentage is Citations 70% and Warnings 30%. That is higher than the typical
average because they are enforcing it more strictly. A large majority of that is for speed
(80%)with numerous criminal charges, which is 25 mph over the speed limit. They have
also had citations for driving on a suspended license, and stop sign violations, particularly
around the fountain.
For upcoming events, they will be involved with the Fountain Hills Cares event, where the
Community Outreach staff from Maricopa County will be in attendance, and also they
have the Prescription Drug Take Back event, which is the same day as Make a Difference
Day, from 10 am to 2 pm right outside Town Hall. Councilmember Scharnow noted that
the Drug Coalition will have a few out helping them as well.
Mayor Dickey conveyed condolences to the Sheriffs Office for the recent loss of Deputy
Juan Ruiz. She said that they all mourn with them. It was such a waste and tragedy, and
she appreciated Captain Kratzer being at the meeting this evening.
Mayor Dickey thanked Captain Kratzer for the statistics. She said that the Pedestrian and
Traffic Safety Committee has talked about increasing fines, and they will continue those
discussions. She said that they appreciate all that the Sheriffs Office has been doing.
Captain Kratzer said that there have been some concerns voiced about the 9-1-1 system.
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He said that he cannot answer the technical questions, but if someone has an issue, they
should call him and he can contact those with the answers. He said that in Queen Creek
they had a 5-10 minute presentation given on dispatching, but if they were not interested
in that, perhaps they could put something together and place it on the Town's website. He
said that there is some confusion when someone calls in it sounds like a fax machine, but
that is the equipment for the hearing impaired.
Mr. Miller said that if there is a specific incident or call for service, they can have that
looked into and any mitigating circumstances.
B. PRESENTATION: Town of Fountain Hills New Website Look
Bo Larsen, Fountain Hills Community Relations Manager, gave a brief review of the
Town's new website look. He noted that there is a new web address for the Town,
www.fountainhillaz.gov. He said that the old address will still work for now, but this is
being done for security reasons. He thanked those on staff that helped view websites
from all over the country and gave them ideas for making the site better.
Councilmember Grzybowski said that she thought it looked fantastic. She liked the colors
and said it was easy to read. Mayor Dickey said that she agreed; she appreciated all of
the work that went into it.
C. RECOGNITION: Outgoing Board/Commission Members
Mayor Dickey read a statement on each of the following commissioners, and thanked
them for their service. She then presented a Certificate of Appreciate to each:
John McHugh, Strategic Planning Advisory Commission (not present)
Carol Carroll, Sister Cities Advisory Commission
Tom Aielllo, McDowell Mountain Preservation Commission
6. CALL TO THE PUBLIC
Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.01(H),public comment is permitted(not required)on matters NOT listed on the
agenda.Any such comment(i)must be within the jurisdiction of the Council, and(ii)is subject to reasonable
time,place, and manner restrictions. The Council will not discuss or take legal action on matters raised during
Call to the Public unless the matters are properly noticed for discussion and legal action.At the conclusion of
the Call to the Public, individual councilmembers may(i)respond to criticism, (ii)ask staff to review a matter, or
(iii)ask that the matter be placed on a future Council agenda.
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7. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
All items listed on the Consent Agenda are considered to be routine, noncontroversial matters and will be
enacted by one motion of the Council.All motions and subsequent approvals of consent items will include all
recommended staff stipulations unless otherwise stated. There will be no separate discussion of these items
unless a councilmember or member of the public so requests. If a councilmember or member of the public
wishes to discuss an item on the Consent Agenda, he/she may request so prior to the motion to accept the
Consent Agenda or with notification to the Town Manager or Mayor prior to the date of the meeting for which
the item was scheduled. The items will be removed from the Consent Agenda and considered in its normal
sequence on the agenda.
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MOVED BY Councilmember Sharron Grzybowski, SECONDED BY Councilmember Mike
Scharnow to approve Consent Agenda Items 7-A through 7-H.
Vote: 4 - 0 Passed - Unanimously
A. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Approval of the minutes of the Regular
Meeting of September 21, 2021, and the Regular Meeting of October 5, 2021.
B. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Approving a Special Event Liquor License
application for the Fountain Hills Community Foundation for a beer and wine garden in
conjunction with the Flutter at the Fountain event held on November 5 and 6, 2021.
C. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Approving a Special Event Liquor License
application for the Fountain Hills Theater, Inc. for alcohol in conjunction with the Fountain
Hills Theater, Inc. for Opening Night on November 5, 2021.
D. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Approving a Special Event Liquor License
application for the Fountain Hills Theater, Inc. for alcohol in conjunction with the Fountain
Hills Theater, Inc. for Opening Night on December 3, 2021.
E. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Approving a Special Event Liquor License
application for the Fountain Hills Theater, Inc for alcohol in conjunction with the Fountain
Hills Theater, Inc., for Opening Night on January 7, 2022.
F. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Approving a Special Event Liquor License
application for the Fountain Hills Theater, Inc. for alcohol in conjunction with the Fountain
Hills Theater, Inc. for Opening Night on January 28, 2022.
G. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Approving a Special Event Liquor License
application for the Fountain Hills Theater, Inc. for alcohol in conjunction with the Fountain
Hills Theater, Inc. for Opening Night on March 18, 2022.
H. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Approving a Special Event Liquor License
application for the Fountain Hills Theater, Inc. for alcohol in conjunction with the Fountain
Hills Theater, Inc. for Opening Night on April 15, 2022.
8. REGULAR AGENDA
A. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Appointments to the Board of Adjustment,
Community Services Advisory Commission, McDowell Mountain Preservation Commission,
Sister Cities Advisory Commission, and the Strategic Planning Advisory Commission.
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MOVED BY Councilmember Mike Scharnow, SECONDED BY Councilmember Gerry
Friedel to appoint the following:
Board of Adjustment 10/31/24 Jeremy Smith
10/31/22 Erik Hansen
Community Services Advisory Commission 04/30/24 Craig Rudolphy
McDowell Mountain Preservation Commission 10/31/24 Scott Grzybowski
10/31/24 Bill Craig
10/31/24 Brian Jennings
Sister Cities Advisory Commission 10/31/24 Lisa Ristuccia
10/31/24 Bev Tall
10/31/24 Zarrin Caldwell
Strategic Planning Advisory Commission 04/30/22 Bernie Hoele
Vote: 4 - 0 Passed - Unanimously
B. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Acceptance of public art concept
for Keystone Homes -The Havenly Fountain Hills development.
Community Services Director Rachael Goodwin said that the developer and artist are at
the meeting this evening. She said that the general concept is shown in the packet and
they also had a model to show the Council. She said that this project does meet the 1/2%
as outlined in the Public Arts Policy.
Jeff King, representing Keystone Homes, came forward with the model and said they are
pleased to be part of the community. He said that it has gone well so far working with
John Wesley and the engineering staff. He said that the part of the process of public art
was new to them, but Ms. Goodwin walked them through the process. They went out to
six different artists and selected Craig Randich. He said that what is being proposed fits
well with their community, both architecturally and durability-wise, and includes the
shadow play around the plantings.
Mr. Randich came forward and said that the model is based off of taking the fountain and
turning it upside down. It has to do with shadows on the ground and the sculpture.
Councilmember Scharnow said that some of the photos in the packet included canvas. He
asked if this piece would include canvas over it. Mr. Randich said that it was designed
without the fabric, but he is open to the idea of having canvas to add more shade factor.
Councilmember Scharnow said that it also mentioned it would have a rusticated surface.
He said that Scottsdale has put up bus stops along Shea with that type of material, and it
tends to leave discoloration on the sidewalk. Mr. Randich said that there would most likely
be some rust happening, Mr. King noted that there will be decomposed granite under the
structure so it would not affect the sidewalk.
Councilmember Grzybowski said that she loves the concept of useable art. She said that
as a general rule she is not a fan of public art on private space, but in this case, it is not
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hidden from the public so everyone can use it. Mayor Dickey noted that one of the rules is
that it has to be accessible for the public.
MOVED BY Councilmember Sharron Grzybowski, SECONDED BY Councilmember Mike
Scharnow to accept the public art application for the sculpture and authorize it to be
installed at the designated location at The Havenly.
Vote: 4 - 0 Passed - Unanimously
C. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Resolution 2021-32 approving Amendment
Two to the Intergovernmental Agreement with Maricopa County relating to the
maintenance, improvement and management of outdoor recreation opportunities in the
McDowell Mountain Preserve and McDowell Regional Park.
Ms. Goodwin said that this allows the Town to cooperate with the adjacent McDowell
Mountain Park which is good since they have adjoining trails and can coordinate
maintenance.
Councilmember Scharnow said that he thought this was very good. He loves this kind of
working together, and it works in with the Master Plan approved last year and is not
duplicating efforts.
MOVED BY Councilmember Gerry Friedel, SECONDED BY Councilmember Sharron
Grzybowski to adopt Resolution 2021-32 approving Amendment Two to the
Intergovernmental Agreement with Maricopa County.
Vote: 4 - 0 Passed - Unanimously
D. CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION: Options for possible amendment to Section
11-1-7, Noise, of the Town Code.
Mayor Dickey said that they started this conversation a month or so ago. Mr. Miller said
that the Town Council was questioning why they were making changes; it appeared that
the Council was leaning toward maintaining status quo. He said that Mr. Wesley will be
leading the discussion, but the Town Prosecutor was unable to attend the last meeting,
and he was joining them tonight via telephone to answer some questions. Mr. Wesley
said that the Town Prosecutor, Mark lacovino, and Captain Kratzer would be able to
answer the questions best. He said that the prior recommendation was to eliminate the
decibel approach because that approach has been a challenge for the officers and the
court.
Mr. lacovino said that he has gone back and redid some of his research on what various
communities use. He said that he checked 13 different cities. Paradise Valley, Cave
Creek and Sedona use the decibel method, but Sedona has dedicated staff managing
their noise ordinance. Four others use a combination of decibel and "unreasonable noise"
and the others use just the "unreasonable noise."
He said that noise is an important issue in Fountain Hills. They have had two different
noise ordinances as there are two approaches to enforcing unwanted noise--the decibel
limit and the "unreasonable noise" approach. Talking about decibel limits has an appeal
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because it is an objective standard. Unfortunately, it is not nearly that simple. There are
two primary problems using decibel limits. First is the ambient noise. When a deputy goes
out to a site, the meter is not just registering the noise from the party down the street. It is
also registering traffic, wind, insects, air conditioner compressors, etc. and that ambient
noise level can be significant. The problem is there is no way to separate the ambient
noise from the offending noise. The other problem is that the decibel level from any noise
source will be very different depending on the location of where you take the reading. The
terrain, vegetation, lack of vegetation, buildings, sound reflective surfaces nearby, wind
direction and strength, humidity and temperature all play a part. He said that he is not an
advocate for an ordinance based on decibel.
Mr. lacovino said that going with the "unreasonable noise" standard is much more
workable. It takes into account the hour of the day, location, day of the week, etc. It is a
definition they have used in disorderly conduct statutes. He would strongly advocate an
ordinance that is based on the "unreasonable noise" standard rather than decibel levels.
Councilmember Scharnow said that he was one that originally questioned the
recommendation, but Mr. lacovino has enlightened them. Mr. lacovino said that the
ambient noise argument is what defense attorneys use to get people off the hook. If he
was representing someone for noise, his first question would be when it took place and
where, and what the ambient noise level was. The officer is going to say they do not know
and that will be the end of the case.
He said that Cave Creek is one of the based on decibels. He was a prosecutor there for
many years and last week he spoke with Adam Stein who said that it is unenforceable
because the ambient noise levels are so high.
Councilmember Scharnow said that they do not want something on the books that does
not do anything. He asked Mr. lacovino if the chances were better if they cited under the
"unreasonable noise" standard. Mr. lacovino replied that they had a much greater chance
for success with that standard.
Councilmember Grzybowski said that she is also one of the ones hesitant to not include
the decibel reading, but Mr. lacovino did a great job of explaining it. She said that there is
a strong inclination for subjective and objective, she understands. The problem she has is
with "reasonable;' there is nothing objective about"unreasonable."
Mr. lacovino said that there are many laws that require reasonable efforts or require
actions such as "reasonable." He said that using a "reasonable" standard objectifies
different types of analyses. At some point, they have to put some faith in a judge that is
going to hear a case. That is the flip side of the argument. With the use of"unreasonable,"
they take into account all the various factors. What is reasonable at 8 AM is not the same
at 2 AM, or on weekends versus week days. The "unreasonable noise" standard allows
the judge to take all of those circumstances into account. He said that he understood the
hesitation, but it is the best they can reasonably do.
Mr. Arnson said that he was hesitant coming into this discussion as he was questioning
why they were making changes, but Mr. lacovino has made him a believer with the
research he has done. He echoed what Mr. lacovino said about "reasonable" as from day
one in school talking about tort and negligence, they use the "reasonable person"with
respect to legal standards. There is no one test that can work for every situation.
Mayor Dickey said that a concern brought up last time had to do with any kind of
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electronic music, and duration. She asked if those issues are brought into the argument in
considering reasonable versus unreasonable. And, she asked if it had to be measured
when it is happening.
Mr. Wesley said that he pulled up one of the ordinances, and there are 14 different criteria
to help determine "unreasonable" such as volume, intensity, usual/unusual, proximity,
time of day, etc. and a lot of those factors can be considered in making the determination.
Mr. lacovino said that they could adopt some guidelines, but ultimately they want
something simple and as straight forward as possible. He said that they need to balance
those two concerns.
Town Clerk Elizabeth Klein noted that two written comment cards were received. One
from Betsy LaVoie, Director of the Chamber of Commerce, who was opposed to doing
away with the decibel standard. The other from James Ruff, who supported staffs
recommendation to do away with it.
Councilmember Scharnow said that it is hard to say what they want. Staff should come up
with something and they can go from there. They need to rely on the experts and
professionals in terms of advice.
Mr. Miller said that they heard from the subject experts, and the Town's counselor. He
said that they also had some minor housekeeping they were doing to the previous
ordinance, so they will come back with an ordinance that encompasses what has been
discussed. He said that they will remove the decibel levels, and will have a staff
presentation.
Councilmember Friedel said that the music was a good point. The Town does its best to
comply with special events. There is a reason why they have to end at a certain time, so
those around Fountain Park are not disturbed.
Councilmember Grzybowski said that there are quite a few business owners watching. As
hard as it is to see subjective versus objective and "reasonable" Mr. Arnson has eased
her mind, and Captain Kratzer did not support the decibel reading. She believed that she
would go with what the subject matter experts recommend.
E. PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Ordinance 21-13
amending Zoning Ordinance Chapter 6, Sign Regulations, Sections 6.02, Definitions,
Section 6.07, General Regulations, and Section 6.08, Sign Requirements and Allowances.
(ACTION TO BE TAKEN TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO NOVEMBER 2,
2021, REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING)
Mayor Dickey opened the Public Hearing. She said that they need a robust discussion on
this issue and since they are missing three members from the meeting this evening she
would like to continue it.
MOVED BY Councilmember Gerry Friedel, SECONDED BY Councilmember Mike
Scharnow to continue the Public Hearing to November 2, 2021.
Vote: 4 - 0 Passed - Unanimously
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F. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION: Approving One Arizona Distribution of
Opioid Settlement Funds Agreement.
Mr. Arnson said that the staff report gives a full summary of this item, but last year the
Town Council approved entering into a Memorandum of Understanding regarding the
opioid issue. Fourteen states joined in, including the State of Arizona. This is the next step
that updates the terms of the MOU addressing the mechanisms for payment and executes
two final agreements. He said that everything needs to be executed on or before January
2 of next year. They are looking at $549 million for the State's share of the settlement,
and of that there is a 44% state /56% cities and towns split, based on population. He said
that the payments will be on a rolling basis in April of next year. The amount of payment
will depend on the number of municipalities that sign onto it and payment of attorneys
fees. Mr. Pock figured out the Town's amount to be around $1.2 to $1.3 million. The funds
are to be used for public health and safety related issues, primarily opioids.
Mr. Miller said that one of the issues they will need to identify is how to use that money. At
the Council Retreat next February they will talk about different options for its use.
Councilmember Scharnow said that he did not see population in any of the criteria. Mr.
Arnson said that he has not been directly involved, but they have to use some objective
factors, and he would assume it would be based on population.
9. COUNCIL DISCUSSION/DIRECTION to the TOWN MANAGER
Item(s)listed below are related only to the propriety of(i)placing such item(s)on a future agenda for action, or
(ii)directing staff to conduct further research and report back to the Council.
Councilmember Friedel said that in the past couple of days he was approached by
citizens who mentioned that the Town used to have a recycling program. He asked if that
was something they wanted to get back into. Mr. Miller said that they do now have
curbside recycling, but he would look into it further and report back to the Council.
10. ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY Councilmember Gerry Friedel, SECONDED BY Councilmember Sharron
Grzybowski to adjourn.
Vote: 4 - 0 Passed - Unanimously
The Regular Meeting of the Fountain Hills Town Council held October 19, 2021,
adjourned at 6:50 p.m.
TOWN OF FOUNTAIN HILLS
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ATTEST AND PREPARED BY:
izabe . Klein, Town Clerk
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and correct copy of the minutes of the Regular
Meeting held by the Town Council of Fountain Hills in the Town Hall Council Chambers on the 19th day
of of October, 2021. I further certify that the meeting was duly called and that a quorum was present.
DATED this 2nd day of November, 2021.
lizabeth Klein, Town Clerk