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TOWN OF FOUNTAIN HILLS
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
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JANUARY 27,2015
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AGENDA ITEM#1: CALL TO ORDER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
A public meeting of the McDowell Mountain Preservation Commission was convened and called to order
by Acting Chair Tom Barberic at 5:29 p.m., Tuesday, January 27, 2015 in the Council Chambers at Town
Hall, located at 16705 East Avenue of the Fountains, Fountain Hills, Arizona.
AGENDA ITEM#2: ROLL CALL
Present at roll call were Acting Chair Tom Barberic, Commissioners Tom Aiello, Bill Craig, Bill Myers,
Klaus Schadle, and Ken Thornton. Staff members present were Director Mark Mayer and Executive
Assistant Nancy Walter.
AGENDA ITEM#3: CALL TO THE PUBLIC
No one from the public wished to speak.
AGENDA ITEM #4: CONSIDERATION OF APPROVING THE DECEMBER 2, 2014 MEETING
MINUTES
Commissioner Schadle made a motion to accept the minutes of the December 2, 2014 meeting,
Commissioner Aiello seconded and the motion passed by unanimous vote.
AGENDA ITEM#5: CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTING THE COMMISSION CHAIR
Commissioner Craig made a motion to appoint Commissioner Myers as the Commission Chair,
Commissioner Barberic seconded and the motion passed by unanimous vote.
AGENDA ITEM#6: CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTING THE COMMISSION VICE-CHAIR
Commissioner Craig made a motion to appoint Commissioner Barberic as the Commission Vice-Chair, Chair
Myers seconded and the motion passed by unanimous vote.
AGENDA ITEM #7: CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTING A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE
COMMUNITY SERVICES ADVISORY COMMISSION
Each Commissioner will attend one CSAC meeting and then will determine if they will continue that process
or appoint one Commissioner to attend all of the CSAC meetings.
• Commissioner Schadle - February 23
• Commissioner Aiello - March 23
• Commissioner Thornton—April 27
• Chair Myers—May 18
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AGENDA ITEM#8: DISCUSSION OF WORK GROUP ASSIGNMENTS
The Commissioners each volunteered to be on a workgroup.
• Adero Canyon Trailhead: Commissioners Craig, Schadle, Thornton, and Chair Myers ..,�+✓
• McDowell Mountain Month: Commissioners Aiello, Schadle and Vice—Chair Barberic
• Preserve Marketing and Fairs: Commissioners Aiello, Thornton and Vice—Chair Barberic
Chair Myers discussed ITEM #16 at this time.
AGENDA ITEM #9: REPORT ON THE JANUARY 26, 2015 COMMUNITY SERVICES
ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING
Vice-Chair Barberic reported:
• The CSAC held two meetings regarding the dog park and formed a group to study the issues regarding
the dog park
• The CSAC formed three work groups: Parks/Facilities, Programs, and Budget/CIP
• The CSAC Commissioners will tour the parks and facilities on February 14
• There is currently a moratorium on drones in the parks and the Preserve
AGENDA ITEM #10: CONSIDERATION OF ESTABLISHING COMMISSION MEETING DAYS
AND TIMES
Vice-Chair Barberic made a motion to meet on the following dates at 5:30 p.m., Commissioner Thornton
seconded and the motion passed by unanimous vote.
• January 27
• February 24
• March 24
• April -No meeting scheduled
• May 26
• June 23
• July-No meeting scheduled
• August 25
• September 22
• October 27
• December 1 (Combined November & December)
AGENDA ITEM #11: DISCUSSION OF THE CONTENT AND SIZE OF THE PRESERVE TRAIL
MAPS AND TRIFOLDS
Pricing options were given for the tri-folds and the six-fold maps. The current 100# tri-folds (8.5x11) cost
$640.25, including tax, for 2000 maps. The 80# six-fold maps (11x17) would be $795.00 plus tax and
delivery for 2000 maps.
The Commissioners would like to add safety tips and include new trails on the tri-folds and would like to
extend the Big Picture maps to include the new trails, the Regional Park, and Scottsdale's trails. The Preserve
Marketing Group will discuss ideas for these maps and will meet with Ken Valverde. The Marketing Group
will bring their ideas to the Commission.
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AGENDA ITEM#12: DISCUSSION OF SIGNS FOR THE PRESERVE'S NEW TRAILS
Chair Myers and Commissioner Craig have identified locations for the emergency markers and directional
signs and want other Commissioners to look at them also. Staff will order the signs when the information is
Saw ready.
Discussion then turned to how the signs would be paid for. Director Mayer will bring the current budget
figures to the next meeting.
AGENDA ITEM#13: UPDATE ON ADERO CANYON
Director Mayer read aloud the attached questions and answers documents.
• The latest estimate from the architect is that the project is still on track for $1.7 million
• The Town has not signed off on the final design; it would take approximately six to eight weeks to
complete from 95% to 100%
• MCO should bear the cost if they raise the elevation to the entry way and walkway
• Director Mayer will verify item #4 regarding the temporary utility plans and also when the
emergency access to Parcel #2 would be done
• It was suggested that additional benches for the Trailhead could be donated
• Adero Canyon final plats are on Council's February 5th and 19th agendas for approval
Commissioner Craig has additional questions, including parking in the cul-de-sac, and will email them to
Director Mayer.
AGENDA ITEM #14: DISCUSSION OF USING SPRAY FOR THE EXPOSED PART OF THE
PROMENADE TRAIL
Commissioner Craig said there are two methods to cover up the scar/cut along the Promen.s e Trail. Permeon
is a treatment estimated to cost approximately $4500-$5000. Hydro-seeding would :: : approximately
$4000-$5000. The money for this would have to come from the Open Space or Trails Budget. Director
Mayer will talk with the Engineering Department regarding which would be the best treatment.
AGENDA ITEM #15: DISCUSSION OF PLANS FOR THE BOOTH AT THE FEBRUARY GREAT
FAIR
Vice-Chair Barberic said every shift slot is filled. He and Steve Fleming will do the set-up and take-down.
Vice-Chair Barberic will talk with Steve Fleming regarding saving the spot on Thursday.
AGENDA ITEM #16: DISCUSSION OF POTENTIAL OBJECTIVES FOR THE COMMISSION IN
2015
Chair Myers read aloud from the attached list of 19 objectives. Commissioner Schadle read aloud from the
attached list of five objectives. These will be discussed at a future meeting.
AGENDA ITEM#17: CONSIDERATION OF ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Craig made a motion to adjourn at 7:07 p.m., Vice-Chair Barberic seconded and the motion
passed by unanimous vote.
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Myers, Chair
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Mark . Mayer, Director of Commu y Services
Prepared by:
W ter, ecutive Assistant
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and correct copy of the minutes of the McDowell
Mountain Preservation Commission Meeting held on January 27 2015. I further certify that the meeting
was duly called and that a quorum was present.
By:
Nancy alter, xecutive Assistant
Dated this 17th day of February 2015
McDowell Mountain Preservation Commission
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Fountain Hills Preserve
MMPC objectives list for 2015
Following are 19 possible objectives for the MMPC to discuss for 2015. The completion
of these objectives will increase the usability, safety and value of the Preserve for current
residents and future generations. The list is not in any specific order, such as importance
or cost, but is intended to be a basis for discussion and direction of the MMPC efforts.
Some of these objectives could be assigned to existing workgroups, new workgroups or
individuals. Some are long time frame and take many months to complete and some are
relatively short range and inexpensive.
1) Quick Read (QR). Quick Read codes could be places on several existing signs to
help hikers and others gain information about the trail they may be about to go on.
2) Trailhead Workgroup. The existing Trailhead Workgroup has made an initial site
visit and developed 15 questions to help reduce the cost and improve the Trailhead.
Those questions are being answered, which is helping the Workgroup understand the
work that has already been accomplished. Consistent involvement by the Workgroup
is needed and hopefully will be a benefit to the Town and the Trailhead.
3) Scar on the Mountain. The Promenade Trail (Jeep Trail) scar can be seen from
many places in our Town. That scar may be able to be revegitated and rock stained to
increase the esthetic appeal of our Preserve.
4) Grand opening of the Trailhead. Seems a little early and presumptuous to plan for
the opening. The final preparation will be closer to the actual opening,but it is not
too early to begin the process.
5) Emergency Markers and Helicopter landing Zones. The new Andrews/Kinsey
Trail needs EM and LZ to be as safe as the other 6 miles of trails in our Preserve.
6) Recognition of the Conservancy. The MMPC needs the Town to recognize the
value of the time and effort of the Conservancy. One example is the construction of
the Andrews/Kinsey Trail. Scottsdale spent $95,000 developing their portion of the
Trail. Primarily because of the Conservancy the cost to Fountain Hills was very
minimal.
7) Recognition of the Value of the Preserve. We need to show the true value of our
Preserve. It has value in exercise, ambiance, outdoor desert area,background for
events such as weddings, and dollar value to all real estate here in Town. All who
own real estate in Town would lose considerable dollar value if the Preserve were
allowed to be developed.
8) Preserve the Preserve. There is some question as to the long term economic
viability of our Town. The Town weathered the last recession (10`h since WWII)by
cutting the Town staff by half. Not sure how to weather the next recession. Part of
our job is to Preserve the Preserve in our time.
9) Coordinate with Scottsdale and Regional Park. There could be several events that
the 53,000 combined acres could host that may be a benefit to our Town in many
ways. There are no hotels or restaurants in the Regional Park to our north. Added
business for our Town would be a plus.
10)Firewising. There still remain several areas in our Town that could start a fire that
could run up to the Preserve. Scottsdale had a fire in '95 that burned 23,000 acres
and devastated real estate values. Our Town is a total of about 13,000 acres.
Firewising would decrease the chance of a catastrophic fire.
11)Advertising of Preserve. Biking, hiking, geology, various training and educational
opportunities and could be advertised in the appropriate publications in
addition to the local papers. More usage and business for Fountain Hills.
12)New Flyer. We currently have a six panel flyer. Great Flyer. We may consider a 12
panel or 24 panels. Added info could be a bigger map, some safety info, and other
information.
13)Marquee at Golden Eagle and Adero Trailhead. We currently have a large map in
the Golden Eagle Marquee. Thanks Mark, it looks great. We may want to put a little
more information at the Golden Eagle marquee such as location of the restroom and
safety information.
14)All signage at the Adero Trailhead. MMPC can start work on the appropriate
signage for the Trailhead and other items that may need attention at the Trailhead.
See other trailheads for their ideas.
15)Trail Counters. We currently have one trail counter. Several other trail counters
would help in establishing the usage of the Preserve and tell us which trails are
heavily traveled in order to allocate funds and efforts to where it is most needed.
16)Test 911. Even though we have had no deaths in our Preserve so far, it would be
informative to see how our Emergency Marker and Landing Zone maps are really
used and how to improve them. Test the 911 in the Preserve.
17)Five layers of Protection. Other cities have attempted to make it difficulty to sell
part of all of their Preserve. We would like to make it difficult for a future developer
to tempt the Town to sell the Preserve for development
18)Bench Criteria. We have been approached by those who wish to put another bench
at several locations in the Preserve. A criteria needs to be developed to handle such
requests. I think the Town has one now for the Parks in Town.
19)Budget. The Town needs to develop a dollar budget specifically for the Preserve.
Currently, the budget for the Town's largest and most expensive asset appears to be
quite small.
The above is very brief. The why, how, and cost and other factors should be discussed.
Objectives can then be prioritized by the MMPC with input by the Town and Council.
Other ideas and objectives will also come, I think.
Preserve the Preserve
Commissioner Schadle
MMPC meeting January 27, 2015
Agenda item#16
• Facilitate coordination/communications with MCO can MMPC assist them in any way
• Invite Jeremy Hall to periodically update the MMPC on Adero progress
• Work with Town staff on construction timetable and get updated costs for the TH; can we build
as envisioned a decade ago?; more?; less?
• Coordinate with Town staff and MCO to ensure TH project is put out to bid
• Quarterly update Town Council on progress/plans and challenges of the TH project
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